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To: wmfights
I may have missed it, but I don't recall him expressing a disagreement with Islam.

You guys are too much.

You see, thi may surprise those who make up their interpretation of scripture and the teaching of their churches as they go along, but the Pope does not need to say everything all the time. He is part of a body, not some backwoods heresiarch making up his own denomination.

For you to suggest that he does not think that Islam is, at best, a heresy, is to suggest that, like the average Protestant cleric, the Pope just feels free to invent new teaching. It is not so. We know what the Church teaches on Islam. We also know that since the 8th century Islam has been a dangerous neighbor to Christian Europe.

Unlike the Protestants who swagger in their declarations that they are not as other men are, that they are pure in their behavior as well as their teaching, the Pope has sympathy for those with whom he disagrees, for unbelievers.

Of course, hatred has no eyes for charity and sympathy, and naturally will belittle and demean the first tentative outreach to non-Christians, while it also mocks the Church for insufficient evangelical effort -- thus displaying once again that the concern is not truth but condemnation whether true or untrue.

So, I am tired of spending energy trying to point out how stupid and malicious it is to think the Pope doesn't condemn Islam. If it makes people good to feel superior to John Paul the Great, let them.

4,823 posted on 09/14/2010 6:18:46 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; OLD REGGIE
not some backwoods heresiarch

we heresiarchs cling bitterly to our guns and religion, none of us have been photoged kissing the koran, and never will be

4,827 posted on 09/14/2010 6:24:56 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Mad Dawg
"So, I am tired of spending energy trying to point out how stupid and malicious it is to think the Pope doesn't condemn Islam."

JPII understood that love is the greatest weapon against evil, not condemnation or intolerance. He talked the talk and walked the walk. Funny how it is Protestants, not the actual Pope, who "Pontificate".

4,896 posted on 09/14/2010 10:02:23 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Mad Dawg
WM: I may have missed it, but I don't recall him expressing a disagreement with Islam.

MD: You guys are too much.

When did your pope John Paul condemn islam? He made a terrible mistake of kissing the koran, which was used through out the world by muslims. I don't remember any public declaration that those who follow islam are lost and need to come to Jesus Christ to be saved.

If I missed this I stand corrected, but when did it occur?

...the Pope has sympathy for those with whom he disagrees, for unbelievers.

Where is the sympathy if by silence people don't hear The Gospel.

Of course, hatred has no eyes for charity and sympathy, and naturally will belittle and demean the first tentative outreach to non-Christians, while it also mocks the Church for insufficient evangelical effort -- thus displaying once again that the concern is not truth but condemnation whether true or untrue.

Where is the hatred in asking if this pope ever stood up to the evil of islam?

So, I am tired of spending energy trying to point out how stupid and malicious it is to think the Pope doesn't condemn Islam.

Is this to say he never publicly pointed out that followers of islam are going to hell?

If it makes people good to feel superior to John Paul the Great, let them.

If leaders of churches don't preach The Gospel to the lost what good are they? Anybody can sing to a choir that is singing the same song. Everyday Evangelists are preaching The Gospel to the lost at great personal risk. How does it help them when the leader of the largest church kisses the koran and never tells muslims how they are damned.

5,011 posted on 09/15/2010 7:22:10 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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