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To: maryz
I do not REJECT logic, but neither do I think it adequate to bring us to God. Logic, like everything else that springs from man, is fallen and imperfect.

As for relate - that is what family involves. Relations. It is what exists between two people, and the God of the Bible is personal. He is not a principle to be comprehended or observed, but personal.

Logic has little to do with my marriage to my wife - BOY does it ever have little to do! And logic will not compel us to know God or enjoy Him. My love for my children is not produced by or limited to logic, nor my love of my dogs or my horses. Logic is the wrong tool for the job.

Gratuitous daughter & horses pic...even horses like relations:


4,639 posted on 09/14/2010 12:21:04 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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good grief, what kind of hardware do you have in that horse’s mouth


4,643 posted on 09/14/2010 12:24:22 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Mr Rogers
I do not REJECT logic, but neither do I think it adequate to bring us to God. Logic, like everything else that springs from man, is fallen and imperfect.

Maybe I missed something -- who has argued that logic is adequate to bring us to God? Or that human reason is not fallen and imperfect?

As for relate - that is what family involves. Relations. It is what exists between two people, and the God of the Bible is personal. He is not a principle to be comprehended or observed, but personal.

"Relationship" I have no problem with. "Relations" often has a, well, more specific referent! ;-) And "relate" as in "relate to" (as opposed to relating, say, cause and effect, or relating events as they transpired) just brings back too many echoes of "Hey, dude, ya know, I just can't, like, relate to that, ya know? I probably was just exposed to too many undergrads when the usage gained currency.

I don't recall anyone here even remotely suggesting that God is not personal.

4,651 posted on 09/14/2010 12:38:47 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Mr Rogers

BTW, lovely picture! How old is your daughter?


4,653 posted on 09/14/2010 12:39:52 PM PDT by maryz
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