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To: Dr. Eckleburg
God loves His children so much that "while they were yet sinners, Christ died for them."

Nice - if we ignore Calvin's Limited Atonement: God loves his children so much that he dooms some in the womb to eternal hell.

You "love" a God who capriciously torments your brothers and sisters in the womb. Why? Because he didn't doom and torment you as well?

Stockholm.

4,633 posted on 09/14/2010 12:15:14 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
if we ignore Calvin's Limited Atonement

It's not Calvin's limited atonement. It's Christ's . If Christ died for a man, and paid for his sins, that man has been saved. It's not that difficult to understand. Not one drop of Christ's blood was wasted. It atoned for every sin God wished it to atone for.

"Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were apppointed." -- 1 Peter 2:7-8

If God wanted all men to be saved, all men would be saved.

4,723 posted on 09/14/2010 1:58:44 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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