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To: Cronos
God stands outside time and space, so how He sees things is impossible for us to comprehend

That is certainly true, but as a theological rebuttal, it is meaningless because God has revealed His predestination of all things to us in Scripture. What He keeps for Himself is the reason for His choices other than they are made "according to His good pleasure."

God created time. He created us in time.

There was an absolute point in time that God created the heavens and the earth and all things therein.

THAT is the moment we are talking about. At THAT moment, God "knew" everything that would occur for all time.

And that fact reveals to us that men's destinies are fixed because God has "declared the end from the beginning."

No one is denied faith. All who seek the Lord will find Him. But the ability and desire to seek the Lord comes from the Lord, according to His own purpose in creating men and the world.

4,618 posted on 09/14/2010 11:55:18 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
All who seek the Lord will find Him.

Except, according to double predestination, those doomed in the womb are created incapable of this, it is impossible for them - and they will be punished with eternal fire for this incapacity.

4,624 posted on 09/14/2010 12:07:58 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
All who seek the Lord will find Him.

And, according to double predestination, those saved in the womb are created incapable of doing otherwise - and they will be rewarded for being created with the inability to do otherwise, just as their brothers and sisters burn for being created otherwise. .

4,627 posted on 09/14/2010 12:10:09 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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