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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Does double predestination "make God the author of sin" or does double predestination "say it's your fault for being born that way?"

It's a minor point that I started to correct but didn't - Double Predestination says you're doomed, Calvinism says it's your fault.

All men are fallen and all "deserve" condemnation. But God has graciously chosen..

Yep, it's your fault you, but some get a reprieve, and there is absolutely no difference between the two groups. But it's not a gracious god that dooms all, and saves some - in the womb. It is a capricious god, pre-OT capricious.

All men are responsible for their sin.

You cannot be held responsible for something you have no choice and no possible effect upon. You cannot be held accountable for not being able to walk if you have no legs. Merciless.

The god of Calvin is unjust.

This is what gives rise to atheism. An capricious unmerciful unjust punishing God.

4,472 posted on 09/13/2010 11:31:41 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
there is absolutely no difference between the two groups

Got that right. All men are fallen and all are sinners.

The only difference between the sinner and the saint is the free gift of God's mercy by the imputation of Christ's righteousness.

The god of Calvin is unjust.

Like I said, read Romans 9.

This is what gives rise to atheism. An capricious unmerciful unjust punishing God.

No, atheism is fostered by a belief in men's own abilities. When men empty themselves of the false presumption of their own righteousness, they are then and only then able to be filled with the righteousness of Christ.

4,478 posted on 09/13/2010 11:43:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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