To me, your side has at once a harder goal and too eager a tendency to descend to triumphalism, though some on my side do a pretty good end-zone dance too. I have the easier goal because I am just trying to get a coherent expression of what I scarcely understand myself. It is made harder because of the abundance of abusive terms and phrases, AND the sensitivity of having to say to somebody, “You may think you ‘know’ that, but you don’t, because it’s not true.”
I don’t know that we are slated to agree about “abusive phrases” in this time/space dimension . . . though I’d dearly love it if we could.
You may, hopefully, have noted that I rarely use such phrases with you.
I’d guesstimate that 75% of my use of them, if not 85% or more . . . is in response to folks who GREATLY DESERVE THEM because their attitude or their word choices or their “arguments” are so outrageously begging for such.
A lot of the time in life, I prefer to give folks what they desperately are begging for even if they are not consciously admitting at all that they are doing so.
I don’t know IF you have noticed or not,
EVEN WHEN A chronically mean-spirited and relentlessly personally assaultive RABID CLIQUE bloke or blokess becomes civil with me, I TEND to immediately return civility in kind.
I've seen you do that hundreds of times. In fact, you're usually the first one to "become civil."