I'm really surprised at the shallowness of your "we won" rant.
An obscure poet is all you can find to compare with the obsessive "veneration" of Mary by your entire Church.
It is probably better you stick with your scholastic musings and away from substantial discussion.
"Obscure"???? Edmund Spenser is acknowledged to be one of the four greats of English literature, along with Chaucer, Shakespeare and Milton (though less popularly known). That particular passage is from the Dedication of The Faerie Queene, his greatest work. There's lots more of the same out there, plenty by obscure poets and plenty by not so obscure. Feel free to seek them out!
Was I long enough to qualify as a rant?
As for "shallow" it might be too early for your side to declare victory.
An obscure poet is all you can find to compare with the obsessive "veneration" of Mary by your entire Church.
He can scarcely be obscure enough to suit me, if that's his best "worke."
"Obsession"? My ENTIRE Church?
It seems to me the issue up 'til now was not how many were saying a thing, but what was the nature of the thing being said? Obscure pamphlets are not excused by their obscurity. But now, suddenly it's an election, one where the side with the greatest number of votes loses, a sort of force mineure?
It is probably better you stick with your scholastic musings and away from substantial discussion.
Was the pun intended or inadvertent? In either case, you went to the number of people saying a thing, a great mass of people, while I went to the quiddity of the thing being said. So I think my conversation is both substantial and scholastic. The charge has never been that many of us said a thing, but that the thing being said was wrong. Now it seems it is wrong when we say it, but less so when one of the others says it.