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To: D-fendr; Quix

I see no difference between fallen angels and demons.

I don’t believe there are *citizens of distant planets* but that’s primarily because Scripture is silent on the issue.

Satan can appear as an angel of light. I believe that people who have *spirit guides from the astral plane*, who have met *ascended masters*, Aunt Matilda, or whoever, have encountered demons.

I don’t think that demons would get nowhere with humans if humans saw them as they really are. I believe that it would terrify people too much, so they appear as apparitions or dead historical figures, or yes, even aliens from other planets.

Jesus saw Lucifer fall from heaven. He cast demons out of people all the time during His three year ministry on earth. He certainly believed that they were real and dealt with them as such. I then have no problem believing that demons are real and that they are trying to keep people from God and to take as many to hell with them as possible. If appearing as aliens and performing tricks or creating visions is useful to them in that effort, I do believe that they will use it.

I find it very plausible that when Christ returns and removes His true church, the body of believers, from this earth in what is known as the Rapture, that there will be an upsurge in things like UFO sightings and that that will be the explanation for the disappearances.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the anti-Christ uses that as a rallying point to unite the earth and put it under a one world government. I think that a worldwide catastrophe is the only thing that would motivate all the nations of the world to go along with it initially, until he’s established his power enough to become the tyrant that he ends up being.

Others are certainly free to offer other explanations for how the anti-Christ being able to take power worldwide is to happen, but considering the seriousness with which UFO’s and extra terrestrials are taken these days, it would offer the most plausible so far. People who don’t know any better would believe it. I’ve lived next to people who would likely fall for the alien abduction thing hook, line, and sinker.

The options are: aliens are real, or they are demons posing as aliens, or an awful lot of people are making up very similar stories.


3,197 posted on 09/09/2010 9:33:56 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

INDEED.


3,207 posted on 09/09/2010 9:49:07 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNATED: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics)
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To: metmom
I appreciate your long reply. It sounds like a very nice gesture to work through how the bizarre story could possibly have some maybe plausibility in the future.

The options are: aliens are real, or they are demons posing as aliens, or an awful lot of people are making up very similar stories.

There are other options of course. One is being illustrated on this thread.

The point I've been concentrating on is the juxtaposition of believing these things and having trouble believing less bizarre things - if they are Catholic.

I don't believe, as the people quoted in the newspaper article you linked to, that Mary appeared *in* a stain (nor am I in any way required to by my Church). However, if I believed the world of Quix's, this would be a trifle, an angel could do it without breaking a sweat.

Yet this type is singled out for ridicule, for obvious disbelief and "superstition" by one who has angels, fallen ones, performing all sorts of bizarre feats and "holographic technology."

If you are agreeing with the plausibility of the angel/demon/ET/UFO/bioengineering/3-D holographic world, then the same challenge applies to you. If fallen angels can do all this, then it should be no problem for God to institute the Holy Eucharist as the Church has always held.

3,208 posted on 09/09/2010 9:50:25 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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