[Legatus]

ya know Quix, I do not care what men call me.. I only care about what God calls me... and He calls me, His child, His elect, bride of Christ, Most of all He calls me forgiven... praise God !

In a sense that makes sense, but in another sense I do care what God's friends call me and think of me. Also, and I really do think this is important, I care what God's enemies call me and think of me. I want the former to be pleased to have me along and the latter to want what I have.

[Quix]

I MUCH AGREE.

The “However . . .” gets complicated in some respects and simple in others . . . but doesn’t bridge well across very different perspectives on reality.