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To: Quix

Do the Proddys you speak for know the difference between an icon and an idol? Between worship and veneration?


2,176 posted on 09/08/2010 3:31:38 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

WEASEL WORDS YET AGAIN.


2,178 posted on 09/08/2010 3:40:15 AM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: D-fendr

Do the Proddys you speak for know the difference between an icon and an idol? Between worship and veneration?


The difference between latria , dulia, & hyperdulia at the bottom of this post.

What’s the difference between a bow and a little bow ?
What’s the difference between paying homage and paying a little homage.
What’s the difference between stealing a candy bar at the grocery store and stealing a truckload of candy bars .

Lev 26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.

Cut and pasted from the Catholic Encyclopedia .

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15710a.htm

There are several degrees of this worship:

* if it is addressed directly to God, it is superior, absolute, supreme worship, or worship of adoration, or, according to the consecrated theological term, a worship of latria. This sovereign worship is due to God alone; addressed to a creature it would become idolatry.
* When worship is addressed only indirectly to God, that is, when its object is the veneration of martyrs, of angels, or of saints, it is a subordinate worship dependent on the first, and relative, in so far as it honours the creatures of God for their peculiar relations with Him; it is designated by theologians as the worship of dulia, a term denoting servitude, and implying, when used to signify our worship of distinguished servants of God, that their service to Him is their title to our veneration (cf. Chollet, loc. cit., col. 2407, and Bouquillon, Tractatus de virtute religionis, I, Bruges, 1880, 22 sq.).
* As the Blessed Virgin has a separate and absolutely supereminent rank among the saints, the worship paid to her is called hyperdulia (for the meaning and history of these terms see Suicer, Thesaurus ecclesiasticus, 1728).


2,195 posted on 09/08/2010 7:35:08 AM PDT by Lera
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To: D-fendr
Do the Proddys you speak for know the difference between an icon and an idol? Between worship and veneration?

OF course we know the difference...We also know that praying to a statue of Mary and asking that she give you grace, or that she keep you safe at night is not veneration...It's worship...

Any other questions???

2,238 posted on 09/08/2010 8:52:20 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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