Okay, but that is not based on evidence. Evidence suggests otherwise.
I don't see anything unreasonable in taking the phrase "exact representation" to mean having the same nature. The author actually notes that it is "more than a representation".
My point is that radiance is not the object that radiates, nor does it have the same nature or essence as the object that radiates. For example, our bodies radiate heat. That heat is not "human." It is heat that radiates from human beings, but that doesn't make the heat human by nature.
It depends on how we define "human".
That sounds positively Clintonian. :)
I wouldn't limit it to our born natures. Our natures are changed by God once during life for the saved, and then again before entering Heaven finally. Once the saved finally enter Heaven are they no longer "human"? I would say no, they are still human, but changed.
FK, first human nature is created. Not even God can change that. Second, the nature of all living things, not only human, is that they die. No exceptions. Whether you believe you are "saved" or not is irrelevant. Even the "saved" must die. What happens after that is speculation.
Christ says over and over again that He came to do the will of the Father (as opposed to His or anyone else's will).
And therefore he is not like Adam.
Well, what is "God's will" can be a very complicated subject, as we all remember. :)
No, it seems rather certain. God's will is not what we do when we sin (by definition). If we know what constitutes sin (as everyone claims they do), then we also know that God's will is just the opposite of it! :)
That sounds positively Clintonian. :)
Well, I suppose if it was as easy as it should be then we wouldn't lawfully be killing millions of our own children every year.
FK: I wouldn't limit it to our born natures. Our natures are changed by God once during life for the saved, and then again before entering Heaven finally. Once the saved finally enter Heaven are they no longer "human"? I would say no, they are still human, but changed.
FK, first human nature is created. Not even God can change that.
Why can't God change any part of what He has already created? He created our natures "as was", and since then they have been changed according to His will.
Second, the nature of all living things, not only human, is that they die. No exceptions.
But I believe you have correctly said before that this only applies AFTER the Fall, that is, after the human nature had first changed. IIRC, Orthodoxy sees the verse "the wages of sin is death" to refer to physical death. If so, then the Orthodox would see man's original nature as NOT including physical death. Do you see it differently now?
FK: Christ says over and over again that He came to do the will of the Father (as opposed to His or anyone else's will).
And therefore he is not like Adam.
Yes, in this sense. But in other senses, as the "second Adam" Christ is the antithesis of Adam. Adam doomed "the world" and Christ saved "the world".