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To: D-fendr
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe in the Calvinist view the good news is you were born with a free ticket to heaven, sin all the away, no matter what.

The elect are not born regenerated and Will believe when the Gospel is presented. Paul addresses antinomianism in Rom 6 and various other places. Those who "sin all the way", prove they are not Christians.

15,301 posted on 10/30/2010 6:58:44 AM PDT by bkaycee
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To: bkaycee
Thanks for your reply:

The elect are not born regenerated and Will believe when the Gospel is presented.

And there will be no cases where that doesn't happen, correct? IOW, from the womb they have a ticket to heaven, everyone else a ticket to hell.

Those who "sin all the way", prove they are not Christians.

So if they don't stop sinning, ipso factso, they're not elect? I would guess it's more a matter of degree. Is there some general guideline on this? Or is it so long as they are contrite; IOW is everyone who is regrets their sin, elect?

Is everyone who thinks they're elect, elect, or could they be wrong?

15,303 posted on 10/30/2010 7:09:00 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: bkaycee; D-fendr
Those who "sin all the way", prove they are not Christians

Oooh, so you mean to tell me that "real" Christians at some point become sinless in this lifetime?

Sure sounds like a subtle way of preaching a works-based salvation.

15,310 posted on 10/30/2010 9:37:53 AM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: bkaycee
The elect are not born regenerated and Will believe when the Gospel is presented. Paul addresses antinomianism in Rom 6 and various other places. Those who "sin all the way", prove they are not Christians.

Where do you draw the line? What is 'not all the way' that gives evidence that one is a Christian?

15,338 posted on 10/30/2010 6:52:44 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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