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To: Kolokotronis; OLD REGGIE; kosta50; MarkBsnr; D-fendr

Thanks for your post dear Friend

KOLO-””Now, there are two differences between the Orthodox conception of the Assumption and that of the Latins. The Latins believe that the Theotokos was assumed into heaven while alive; that she never died””

The ACTUAL Dogma(MUNIFICENTISSIMUS DEUS) uses many references about Mary dying before being Assumed into heaven and DOES NOT say she was alive before being Assumed into heaven

Here is a few excerpts from MUNIFICENTISSIMUS DEUS(Emphasis ,mine)
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pius_xii/apost_constitutions/documents/hf_p-xii_apc_19501101_munificentissimus-deus_en.html

Adrian I, our predecessor of immortal memory, sent to the Emperor Charlemagne. These words are found in this volume: “Venerable to us, O Lord, is the festivity of this day on which the holy Mother of God suffered temporal death, but still could not be kept down by the BONDS OF DEATH, who has begotten your Son our Lord incarnate from herself.

it follows that the holy Fathers and the great Doctors, in the homilies and sermons they gave the people on this feast day, did not draw their teaching from the feast itself as from a primary source, but rather they spoke of this doctrine as something already known and accepted by Christ’s faithful. They presented it more clearly. They offered more profound explanations of its meaning and nature, bringing out into sharper light the fact that this feast shows, not only that the DEAD BODY of the Blessed Virgin Mary remained incorrupt

Thus St. John Damascene, an outstanding herald of this traditional truth, spoke out with powerful eloquence when he compared the bodily Assumption of the loving Mother of God with her other prerogatives and privileges. “It was fitting that she, who had kept her virginity intact in childbirth, should keep her own body free from all corruption even AFTER DEATH

in like manner St. Francis de Sales, after asserting that it is wrong to doubt that Jesus Christ has himself observed, in the most perfect way, the divine commandment by which children are ordered to honor their parents, asks this question: “What son would not bring his mother back to life and would not bring her into paradise AFTER HER DEATH if he could?”(38) And St. Alphonsus writes that “Jesus did not wish to have the body of Mary corrupted AFTER DEATH


15,298 posted on 10/30/2010 6:02:41 AM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi

“The ACTUAL Dogma(MUNIFICENTISSIMUS DEUS) uses many references about Mary dying before being Assumed into heaven and DOES NOT say she was alive before being Assumed into heaven.”

Shows what I know! :)In fact, it is quite clear that she had indeed died before the Assumption.


15,308 posted on 10/30/2010 8:40:12 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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