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To: metmom
Well, listen again.

Okay. Shoot.

One is not free to be as evil as you wanna be. There are consequences to sinning that do not affect your ultimate salvation.

What are they? And where can I find them in Scripture? You're not seriously proposing the so-often debunked prosperity gospel are you?

Besides, one who is saved is NOT going to want to choose to do evil or sin all they want. It's not in their nature any more.

Well, then, do you choose evil and sin or not? If not, then who chooses it for you? Can you give me an example of somebody whose nature is not to sin and evil? What is the acceptable level of sin and evil? And please back it up with Scripture, if you would be so kind.

And fear is what Catholicism is all about. Fear of not being good enough. Fear of missing the mark and going to hell. It's what keeps people running to confession all the time, compels them to not miss mass because of the threat of mortal sin, fear of taking a newborn out before it's been baptized lest something happen to the child and it end up in Limbo. Fear pervades the Catholic church.

Do I sound fearful? Does any other Catholic on FR? It's not fear. It's love. We love God and the Church. We understand His love for us. We also understand that He has issued instructions to us. Do you guys think that the Two Great Commandments of Jesus are actually suggestions, or only apply to non Christians?

The toe the line because of fear of the consequences, not out of love for God and a desire to do His will to glorify Him.

I don't know where you're finding these Catholics, but growing up in a very Catholic city in a Catholic country, I had none of these experiences.

15,019 posted on 10/27/2010 8:53:25 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: MarkBsnr
What are they? And where can I find them in Scripture? You're not seriously proposing the so-often debunked prosperity gospel are you

Here's one...How many do you want???

1Co 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

This fella's sin got his flesh turned over to Satan...Just like Job...But he did not lose his salvation...

It's amazing how you are so consistantly proven wrong but you just keep on motivatin' thru the fog

15,041 posted on 10/27/2010 9:56:36 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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