Calvary Chapel
In December 1965, Chuck Smith became the pastor of a 25-person congregation and in 1968 broke away from the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel in Santa Ana, California. Before Smith became their pastor, twelve of the 25 members attended a prayer meeting about whether or not to close their church: they reported that “the Holy Spirit spoke to them through prophecy” and told them that Chuck would become their pastor, that he would want to elevate the platform area, that God would bless the church, that it would go on the radio, that the church would become overcrowded, and that he would become known throughout the world.[10]
In 1969, Calvary Chapel became associated with what later became known as the Jesus Movement when Chuck’s daughter introduced him to her boyfriend John, a former hippie who had become a Christian. John then introduced Chuck to Lonnie Frisbee, a hippie Christian who would eventually become a key figure in the Jesus Movement and in Calvary Chapel. Lonnie moved into Chuck’s home, and in a few days, more hippies moved in with Chuck and his wife.[11]
In 1982, John Wimber, a Calvary Chapel pastor, and the Calvary Chapel leadership mutually agreed to part ways. Tension had been mounting over Wimber’s emphasis on spiritual manifestations leading Wimber to withdraw from Calvary Chapel and affiliate with a network of churches that would become the Association of Vineyard Churches.
Return of Christ in 1981
During the late 1970s and early 1980s, Chuck Smith wrote and published a prophetic timeline that declared:
I believe that the generation of 1948 is the last generation. Since a generation of judgment is forty years and the Tribulation period lasts seven years, I believe the Lord could come back for His Church any time before the Tribulation starts, which would mean any time before 1981.[26][27]
The reasoning had to do with the idea that the 7-year Tribulation would end in 1988, forty years after the establishment of the state of Israel. In his 1978 book, Chuck reasoned that Haley’s Comet in 1986 would result in problems for those left behind: “The Lord said that towards the end of the Tribulation period the sun would scorch men who dwell upon the face of the earth (Rev. 16). The year 1986 would fit just about right! We’re getting close to the Tribulation and the return of Christ in glory. All the pieces of the puzzle are coming together.” [26]
Disappointment resulting from the prophecy not materializing in 1981 caused some to leave the church.[28][29][30][31]
[edit] “Generation” living in 1948
In another book titled “Snatched Away,” Chuck proclaimed that the “generation that was living in May of 1948 shall not pass until the second coming of Jesus Christ takes place and the kingdom of God be established upon the earth
All Info is from WIKIPEDIA
Does anyone really think the HS makes mistakes in timing or declaring?
I don’t. But people mistake their own thoughts and subconscious for a lot of “spritual” promptings that invariably are false.
All Info is from WIKIPEDIA
Here’s Vinyard:
The Association of Vineyard Churches, also known as the Vineyard Movement, is a neocharismatic evangelical Christian denomination[2] with over 1,500 affiliated churches worldwide.[1] It has been associated with the “Signs and Wonders” movement,[3]:199 the Toronto blessing,[3]:222 the Kansas City Prophets[3]:160 and a particular style of Christian worship music.[3]:212
WIKIPEDIA
BUT
The Toronto Blessing is not received by other fundies
“There are three things that are often told to people going to receive ministry in meetings involved with the so-called Toronto Blessing. I’m going to describe these things shortly and show why they harshly contradict Bible; then I’m going to draw some conclusions.”
No accord there.
I’ll have to stop and post tmo. There are just so many metmom could belong to. In fact, all those on these threads who won’t identify. and that is fine with me, might belong to any one of them.
I’ll just have to keep posting all of them. And their differences, and the fact that they are in competition with each other, and the fact that it is either the HS who is confused (and I don’t think so, senior), or it is everyone else who determines what is right in their own eyes.