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To: metmom; kosta50
If you're not going to accept the veracity Scripture on its own merit as Scripture, then what's the point of going after non-Scriptural sources? At best, they'd be no more reliable than the books of the Bible. At worst, much less reliable.

Completely agree. We all know how "history" is usually written by the victor - that is an old adage, even. We DO have eyewitness accounts and they have been preserved for thousand of years, but that is where faith comes in when it is in regards to things of God. I trust that God is the one who has ensured the survival of his written words. He used people AND miracles to do so. The evidence is there for those willing to look beyond what can be proved beyond a doubt - and God is NOT afraid of doubts.

12,863 posted on 10/18/2010 10:13:49 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums; metmom
We all know how "history" is usually written by the victor - that is an old adage, even.

And Christianity had since the Edict in Milan, going on 1700 years in 2012, to write its own victory story, and it did in thousands of versions.

We DO have eyewitness accounts and they have been preserved for thousand of years, but that is where faith comes in when it is in regards to things of God.

No eyewitnesses are named. How would you feel in a count if the prosecution said "there are eyewitness accounts to support our charges but we will name none of the eyewitnesses"? You'd cry foul, and rightfully so. It's just that with faith logic breaks down and violates all principles of reason. 

If you can live with that, fine. I have no problem with that. It's your life. But don't offer your beliefs as "proof." Don't quote anonymous scriptures that have been written and rewritten a thousand times as evidence of anything but blind faith.

The fact that any of we may believe something proves absolutely nothing. I am not trying to prove that I am right and you are wrong. I am asking for evidence by those who claim they "know" rather than just believe or hope or wish. 

12,942 posted on 10/19/2010 6:15:45 AM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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