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To: kosta50

We really don’t have an unbiased source for anything of the time - not about the Pharisees, Saducees, Essenes, etc. etc.

“History,” even the thinly-veiled unbiased history books we have now, did not exists until much later. Josephus writes from his point of view, the Jewish writers their’s, Christians their’s and so on for all the “history” we have of these times.

So, if we’re going to require extra-biblical, extra-Christian, extra-judaism, objective history, we really have nothing. So, “what we know” has to either be nothing or be based on the sources we have with whatever conditions and scholarship, archeology, etc. that we can apply.


12,817 posted on 10/18/2010 8:20:12 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
This is true to some extent but not entirely. Usually you have other sources. For instance we know that Roman officials mention Christians, etc. Even Christians who did nothing spectacular. If the apostles were doing miracles, someone would have said something. Thus, you have Christian critics in the second century, all of which corroborates that Christians existed.

Archaeological evidence disputes Biblical evidence of Egyptian exile and Exodus, and for that matter most of Biblical history. Lack of evidence does not permit assuming a biased story is true. It doesn't have to be false, but cannot be treated as true, therefore questionable.

12,858 posted on 10/18/2010 9:54:27 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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