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To: Lera
Oh my.

That makes him either falliable at discernment or just as evil as the muslims.

There is no doctrine among Catholics that a pop cannot err. He is only infallible in certain fairly clearly defined situations.

An encyclical carries great weight -- and in fact I happen to agree with this one, but it is not necessarily an exercise of the charism of infallibility. One could, even a Catholic could (but he'd better have some really good reasons) dispute parts of the encyclical without questioning papal infallibility. Your arguments against the doctrine of infallibility might be more effective if they were directed against what we actually teach.

Please don’t start making excuses that the muslims worship the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob just in the wrong way.

I haven't started making excuses, so I can't stop. I will endeavor to continue to refrain from making excuses.

It seems to me that someone can go to New York and spend all his time below 4th street and east of Lexington Avenue. He will have an opinion of Manhattan which will be correct in some respects, but he won't have experienced Times Square.

Another person can go to NY and do the whole city from Harlem to the Battery. He will have seen the Met and the Museum of Natural History and MOMA and the theatre district and St. Patrick's and on and on and on.

One will say, New York is basically a slum with a few big buildings for rich people. The other will say, "Wow! The museums! The orchestras! The parks! it's an amazing place.

Both are talking about the same city. One is dreadfully wrong, and that wrongness could have dreadful consequences. The God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob does not play dirty tricks on people to get them to murder others .

1,215 posted on 09/03/2010 4:51:44 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

I think you’re being quite over-generous toward the Pope about his Muslim comments.

The satanic moon god stuff founding Islam is dreadful.


1,226 posted on 09/03/2010 6:44:03 AM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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