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To: Quix

The Church Fathers read the Scriptures and interpreted them in union with the Church,not like the reformers did,like it or not,quix. Even when the Church Fathers had different ideas on Scripture they still humbly submitted to the Authority of the Church in the end.


11,973 posted on 10/17/2010 8:38:49 AM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

NOPE.

Merely a good chunk of those wherein political control had already polluted the scene quite a lot played along.

As God told the prophet . . . He had reserved 7000 who had not bowed the knee to Baal.

I suspect He reserved more than that who had not bowed the knee to Rome or any of the other political power centers but to God alone.


12,130 posted on 10/17/2010 2:10:21 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: stfassisi; Quix; RnMomof7; metmom
The Church Fathers read the Scriptures and interpreted them in union with the Church,not like the reformers did,like it or not,quix. Even when the Church Fathers had different ideas on Scripture they still humbly submitted to the Authority of the Church in the end.

And how did the Church Fathers and the Church interpret this?

"Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to MY GOSPEL, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, ACCORDING TO THE REVELATION OF THE MYSTERY, which WAS KEPT SECRET SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN, But NOW is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to ALL NATIONS for the OBEDIENCE OF FAITH;" (Rom. 16:25,26).

Paul clearly writes that HIS GOSPEL, given to him by direct revelation of Jesus Christ, is what establishes all nations for the obedience of faith. Not only that, but Paul's preaching of Jesus Christ and his gospel were a MYSTERY, kept SECRET since the world began, until revealed to Paul.

Not Peter and the 11. Paul. Your whole system of religion depends on following Peter for the "obedience of faith". A gospel that belongs to Israel, not the Church the Body of Christ. And yes, they are different.

12,143 posted on 10/17/2010 2:24:00 PM PDT by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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