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To: Legatus
“Your citation isn't from the treatise against the Jews, it's from Against Noetus.”

Correct you are, I overlooked one of the headings, Mea Culpa!

The reason I cited Hyppolytus was the earlier post pointing to him and the comment about church ‘fathers’ and sola scriptura.

“Oh... and your citation? It's not even factually correct “There is, brethren, one God, the knowledge of whom we gain from the Holy Scriptures, and from no other source” simply isn't true and even if it were it's limited to the knowledge of God, not the governance of the Church and everything else Sola Scriptura pretends to take on itself.”

Well it ether is or isn't, you can't have it both ways just in case.

“I start bouncing up and down in my chair just reading it”

Does the chair have a slot for quarters? That might explain the bouncing.

11,937 posted on 10/16/2010 8:18:11 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
Well it ether is or isn't, you can't have it both ways just in case.

It is not factually correct that we gain knowledge of God from Holy Scripture alone and even if that was factually correct that's still not sola scriptura.

And I'm sorry, but if the passage I cited from Hippolytus in 11921 doesn't get you going then going you just can't be got.

For His sake the sun is darkened, the day has no light, the rocks are shattered, the veil is rent, the foundations of the earth are shaken, the graves are opened, and the dead are raised, and the rulers are ashamed when they see the Director of the universe upon the cross closing His eye and giving up the ghost. Creation saw, and was troubled; and, unable to bear the sight of His exceeding glory, shrouded itself in darkness.
This is He who breathes upon the disciples, and gives them the Spirit, and comes in among them when the doors are shut, and is taken up by a cloud into the heavens while the disciples gaze at Him, and is set down on the right hand of the Father, and comes again as the Judge of the living and the dead.
This is the God who for our sakes became man, to whom also the Father hath put all things in subjection. To Him be the glory and the power, with the Father and the Holy Spirit, in the holy Church both now and ever, and even for evermore. Amen.
It's a bit of a clunky translation to modern ears I think, I checked Schaff's version at ccel and apparently this is his translation (with my emphasis), but I agree with him on this: "[The sublimity of this concluding chapter marks our author’s place among the most eloquent of Ante-Nicene Fathers.]"
11,942 posted on 10/16/2010 8:59:58 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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