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To: MarkBsnr; 1000 silverlings
Are you saying that 3 popes wrote all the heretical Protestant doctrine after 1905? Which popes would they be?

I think the thesis is that 3 popes have encouraged or endorsed some elements of the charismatic renewal, therefore the whole thing is legit in the eyes of the Church.

I'm not sure that the alleged "endorsements" are any more real than the "endorsement" of medjugorje by JPII.

11,535 posted on 10/14/2010 6:14:13 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: Legatus
Are you saying that 3 popes wrote all the heretical Protestant doctrine after 1905? Which popes would they be?

I think the thesis is that 3 popes have encouraged or endorsed some elements of the charismatic renewal, therefore the whole thing is legit in the eyes of the Church.

I'm not sure that the alleged "endorsements" are any more real than the "endorsement" of medjugorje by JPII.

I see. No more endorsement than saying that the Church endorses the children of the Reformation by having them both agreeing on the name of Jesus...

11,538 posted on 10/14/2010 6:24:48 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: Legatus; MarkBsnr; 1000 silverlings
Once again, the problem lies in the non-Catholic assumption of the well-oiled KGB like efficiency of the Vatican. The persistent and mistaken assumption is that geniality and generosity should be the last words applied to the Holy See. The years of anti-Catholic propaganda have been very effective.

Who could object to glossolalia and enthusiastic and apparently spontaneous praise of God and of His Son? Who could object to praying for miracles and healings? Not the popes!

When I'm elected pope, my motto will be, "Don't make me come up there." If somebody presents something for MY approval, I will take him at his word, look through the proposal, and will tend to approve it. I will do this KNOWING that if, later on, it turns out that they're all worshipping Gaia or whatever, I will have to rouse myself and kick some butt.

But it seems that in general, the Holy See tends to say, "Sure, whatever," with maybe some cautions about heresy and its consequences.

In other words, to approve of the Catholic charismatic movement is NOT AT ALL to approve of everything every group of charismatics may do. It is assumed they will remain orthodox and keep their promises.

11,547 posted on 10/14/2010 7:05:40 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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