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To: Mad Dawg; D-fendr; Cronos; Jaded; Judith Anne
At the end of Acts, the true believers suddenly went underground. All traces of their occasional sallies from shadow were obliterated by us until finally in the 16th century God redeemed his own and brought them out, singing and translating truncated Testaments, from an invisible captivity.

They did make appearances from time to time. St. Patrick was actually a Baptist and a big fan of sola scriptura, the fact that the Irish people at the time had NO WRITTEN written language (it would be impossible to translate the Bible into runes) is to be ignored.

The YOPIOS crowd is reluctant to address the FACT that without widespread literacy and the means to mass-produce Bibles, what they call Christianity COULD NOT HAVE EXISTED prior to the invention of the printing press in the 15th century. The notion that the Church somehow "suppressed" the Bible by not translating the Vulgate into other languages is really no different from the claims that not translating Shakespeare into Ebonics is "suppressing" Blacks. The REALITY is that EVERYONE who was literate could read Latin long after the Bible was translated, the reality of "lingua franca" is entirely lost on this group.

Evidently the deity of their religion was musing, or had gone aside, or was on a journey, or perhaps sleeping and needed to be awakened. In any event the gates of the Ho' of Bab'lon prevailed against the true believers for almost a millennium and a half.

The conception of a deity that some of these so-called Christians have is basically a passive-agressive, though incredibly sadistic, version of the deity that Islamofascists believe in. Calvinist "heaven" is a lot like Muhammed's "paradise" minus the hookers and open bar; the only real difference is that while the Islamofascist believes killing non-believers is the price of admission, hyper-Calvinists believe that sadistically mocking Christians is proof of winning a cosmic lottery.

11,278 posted on 10/14/2010 8:33:44 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; Mad Dawg; D-fendr; Cronos; Jaded; Judith Anne
The YOPIOS crowd is reluctant to address the FACT that without widespread literacy and the means to mass-produce Bibles, what they call Christianity COULD NOT HAVE EXISTED prior to the invention of the printing press in the 15th century.

What the "Catholic Apologist" crowd is reluctant to address is the FACT that the Gutenberg Press made the Reformation inevitable.

11,409 posted on 10/14/2010 2:27:36 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: wagglebee
The YOPIOS crowd is reluctant to address the FACT that without widespread literacy and the means to mass-produce Bibles, what they call Christianity COULD NOT HAVE EXISTED

Amazing that Christianity managed to develop without the printing press huh? The epistles seemed to work..

Even today Evangelical churches are growing in China were bibles are forbidden ...The Holy Spirit seems to work pretty well

11,508 posted on 10/14/2010 5:31:10 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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