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To: Jaded
SOME OF THE CALVINISTS NEED TO READ THE BEATITUDES AND THE GREAT COMMISSION.

The Beatitudes were addressed to believers. Christ is telling men who believe in Him how they will live their lives.

The Beatitudes say nothing about HOW and WHY men are saved. Thus the Beatitudes are not the Gospel. Keep reading the Bible and learn what the Gospel is.

And again, the Great Commission is given to all believers - to preach the Gospel, confident that those given ears to hear by God will respond in saving faith.

The Beatitudes tell men HOW to live a Christian life, not WHY they live by the power of God. For that, we look elsewhere in the Scriptures.

10,873 posted on 10/13/2010 8:16:41 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"the Beatitudes are not the Gospel."

That is both the best six word summation of the Calvinist heresy and the most completely false statement I have ever seen. It is positively Orwellian. I don't know if you thought that out or stumbled across it, or if it was the result of the proverbial monkeys with typewriters, but it is a keeper.

It explains everything about the dour demeanor, the lack of charity, the condemnation of "non-believers" to a fiery hell and the willingness to say anything thought necessary to promote Calvinism or to harm the instruments of truth.

10,877 posted on 10/13/2010 8:24:49 AM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The Beatitudes were addressed to believers. Christ is telling men who believe in Him how they will live their lives.

That's not what Scripture says. Both the Sermon on the Plain and the Sermon on the Mount tell us that they were addressed to the crowds ie the world.

The Beatitudes say nothing about HOW and WHY men are saved. Thus the Beatitudes are not the Gospel. Keep reading the Bible and learn what the Gospel is.

That's funny. Jesus spends a lot of painstaking time addressing the crowds in both Matthew and Luke and you say it is not the Gospel? This is why we say that Calvin departed from his Christian roots and why we say that Calvinism is a Paulician / OT pagan religion, full of the wrath of whimsical, sullen and anthropomorthic gods.

And again, the Great Commission is given to all believers - to preach the Gospel, confident that those given ears to hear by God will respond in saving faith.

Backwards yet again. The Gospel narrative is clear as to who is being addressed; Calvin merely came and tried to rearrange it a millennium and a half of Christianity.

Why is it that some of you Bible Believers (tm) cannot read the plain language of what is said and who it is said to?

10,993 posted on 10/13/2010 1:18:15 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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