Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
I'm very uncomfortable knowing that any self professed Catholic voted for that prize loon living in the white house. But on top of that (and I'm not pointing any fingers) there are some people who appear to be doing their level best to drive the rest of us right out the door.
Not sure what that means. The door of the RCC or the Republican door???
AMEN! All history led up to Calvary and all future flows from Calvary.
Mary wasn’t even at the last supper. If she was going to be the new Eve and the co-redeemer, Christ would have instituted an office for her.
Great point.
Where is this found,
And not one of them is OFFICIAL "infallible" Catholic teaching.
Where does the Bible say this?
She WAS at the Crucifixion when ten of the Disciples weren't.
NOBODY was at the Resurrection.
It is paganism to believe Mary was born sinless, lived a sinless life and died sinless. It is paganism to believe Mary was bodily assumed into heaven. It is paganism to believe Mary is a "co-redeemer" or "co-mediator" or "queen of heaven," and a thousand other blasphemous titles Rome gives to a simple Jewish girl who was blessed by God to carry the Christ child to term.
It is also paganism to insist that Mary had to remain a virgin for her entire life and thus make a mockery of her marriage vows before God.
We still call Jimmy Carter "President Carter," but that does not mean he is still the President. Same with "the virgin Mary."
Busted. Dr. Eckleburg tried to pass off the virgin birth as “magic.”
Catholic theology:1) the bible doesn’t mention it, so it could had happened:2) assume it did, and run with it
Rome misdirects all the attention and accolades to the vessel rather than to the miracle which the vessel was carrying.
How can you keep a straight face when saying something as ridiculous?
Everything you don't like is "pagan" for you. However, you represented Catholic teaching on Mary's virginity as magic.
Would you care to take that back?
What vows of chastity among Jews? They can be found right here (just a warning, you might not like it because it speaks DIRECTLY about vows continuing EVEN DURING MARRIAGE):
Numbers, Chapter 30[1] And Moses told the children of Israel all that the Lord had commanded him: [2] And he said to the princes of the tribes of the children of Israel: This is the word that the Lord hath commanded: [3] If any man make a vow to the Lord, or bind himself by an oath: he shall not make his word void but shall fulfill all that he promised. [4] If a woman vow any thing, and bind herself by an oath, being in her father's house, and but yet a girl in age: if her father knew the vow that she hath promised, and the oath wherewith she hath bound her soul, and held his peace, she shall be bound by the vow: [5] Whatsoever she promised and swore, she shall fulfill in deed.
[6] But if her father, immediately as soon as he heard it, gainsaid it, both her vows and her oaths shall be void, neither shall she be bound to what she promised, because her father hath gainsaid it. [7] If she have a husband, and shall vow any thing, and the word once going out of her mouth shall bind her soul by an oath: [8] The day that her husband shall hear it, and not gainsay it, she shall be bound to the vow, and shall give whatsoever she promised. [9] But if as soon as he heareth he gainsay it, and make her promises and the words wherewith she had bound her soul of no effect: the Lord will forgive her. [10] The widow, and she that is divorced, shall fulfill whatsoever they vow.
[11] If the wife in the house of her husband, hath bound herself by vow and by oath, [12] If her husband hear, and hold his peace, and doth not disallow the promise, she shall accomplish whatsoever she had promised. [13] But if forthwith he gainsay it, she shall not be bound by the promise: because her husband gainsaid it, and the Lord will be merciful to her. [14] If she vow and bind herself by oath, to afflict her soul by fasting, or abstinence from other things, it shall depend on the will of her husband, whether she shall do it, or not do it. [15] But if the husband hearing it hold his peace, and defer the declaring his mind till another day: whatsoever she had vowed and promised, she shall fulfill: because immediately as he heard it, he held his peace.
[16] But if he gainsay it after that he knew it, he shall bear her iniquity. [17] These are the laws which the Lord appointed to Moses between the husband and the wife, between the father and the daughter that is as yet but a girl in age, or that abideth in her father's house.
Busted? LOL.
The “magic” Rome is selling is the blasphemous paganism which it peddles to overshadow and eclipse the true miracle of Christ’s virgin birth.
As I just wrote, this blasphemous claptrap concerning Mary literally detracts from the miracle of the virgin birth of Christ.
Rome misdirects all the attention and accolades to the vessel rather than to the miracle which the vessel was carrying.
No question this occurs because Rome does not have ears to hear or eyes to see. It has been blinded so that it does not understand the things of God.
I only listed 36, but there are many more available From the Pontifical Biblical Institute and the Pontifical Biblical Commission. An English translation is available if you request it.
Is your complaint is that the Church has not found a way to squeeze it into a single book?
The fact is that quantitatively more Protestants voted for obama than Catholics did. When you have an election in which zero Protestants vote Democrat then you can start boasting. Until then it is simply hubris.
If you are not now “in his hand,” then you will never be.
He saved his own 2000 years ago; he is not waiting to save more; he has said in his own words that he did not lose any that the father had given him. If he didn’t lose any, then they are all still his.
Why do you still battle this demon?
I think it’s a good thing that we do not presume to be able to publish ‘the last word’ on the Scriptures.
Why is it "paganism"? Is it because you don't believe God could have done it?
It is also paganism to insist that Mary had to remain a virgin for her entire life and thus make a mockery of her marriage vows before God.
How is it "paganism"? Is chapter 30 of Numbers "paganism"?
And I'm still not clear what you think is magic. Is the Virgin Birth "magic"? Because most non-Christians would agree that it is. Is someone being assumed into Heaven "magic"? Because most non-Christians would agree that it is. Is sinlessness "magic"? Most pagans don't believe in sin at all. Or is virginity "magic"? Because I don't think anyone believes it is maintained through magic.
good try but making a neder doesn’t have much to do with staying virginal forever, and the Law says anyway that the father or the husband can revoke it. A neder is more like making a vow not to cut one’s hair, or drink wine, or fast for awhile. It was an attempt to be pius
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