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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

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To: RnMomof7; kosta50; Kolokotronis; Natural Law; MarkBsnr
STF-Those who have noetic prayer in their hearts do, however, communicate with one another. In other words, they have the ability to sit together, and communicate with each other noetically, without speaking. That is, they are able to communicate spiritually. Of course, this also occurs even when such people are far apart. They also have the gifts of clairvoyance and foreknowledge. Through clairvoyance, they can sense both other peoples sins and thoughts (logismoi), while foreknowledge enables them to see and talk about subjects, deeds, and events in the future. Such charismatic people really do exist. If you go to them for confession, they know everything that you have done in your life before you open your mouth to tell them.

RNmom7 -What I do understand is that catholics have more faith in Mystic visions than they do in the scriptures.. which is how the deception entered ...and....Satan can and does all these things.. they all add up to witchcraft

According to your analogy Saint John of Patmos must have been practicing witchcraft and the book of Revelation does not belong than

You fail to understand the difference between Christian Mystics and Gnostic mystics once again.

The Christian Mystics Saint Maximus the Confessor,Saint Macarios Saint Padre Pio, Saint Avila etc...all received these spiritual gifts from Christ and all of them gave credit to Christ for these gifts

These magnificent Saints knew the power of prayer and you are making a mistake in calling it witchcraft

From the words of Saint Maximus The Confessor...

“All the virtues co-operate with the intellect to produce this intense longing for God, pure prayer above all. For by soaring towards God through this prayer the intellect rises above the realism of created beings.”

7,941 posted on 09/30/2010 4:26:33 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: 1000 silverlings
Thanks for your reply.

I believe what the bible says.

Ok. I'll take that as a no to WCF and double-predestination.

7,942 posted on 09/30/2010 4:33:25 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

you might want to read the bible, lol


7,943 posted on 09/30/2010 4:34:12 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: boatbums
God could have used "Irving"

The Epistle of St. Irving to the Romans? I remember when I was a new convert hearing a very nervous lector announce "A reading from the letter of St. Paul to the Filipinos". Oh that cracked me up.

Would "The Apostle Irving" have written different epistles? The same doctrine would have been communicated to us but in a different way, wouldn't it? Surely his personality would have been his own, Paul's writing style is different than John's for instance so it seems something of the writer shines through.

In the same way suppose it had been "The Blessed Virgin Hannah"... the same Christ would have been born... but would there have been ANY differences?

7,944 posted on 09/30/2010 4:34:12 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: D-fendr; RnMomof7
Don't you believe God's Word?

Acts 17 24"The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands. 25And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else. 26From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live. 27God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us.

7,945 posted on 09/30/2010 4:38:32 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Legatus
you mean any differences that mattered?

would Christ have been different if he was an inch taller or shorter? Had black rather than brown hair? Blue eyes instead of brown? what are you getting at?

7,946 posted on 09/30/2010 4:39:47 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Legatus

Bless you. This is kind of why my prayer is that God break my heart. My heart of stone wants to win. The heart with which I love Jesus — the same heart with which He loves me — wants reconciliation in Christ.


7,947 posted on 09/30/2010 4:40:03 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: D-fendr; 1000 silverlings
We baptize children.

Where's the free will in that?

7,948 posted on 09/30/2010 4:41:15 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Legatus

God didn’t call Irving, He called Paul. Who was Paul? What does the bible say?


7,949 posted on 09/30/2010 4:42:37 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: metmom

if they’re not born elect, they make’em elect, lol


7,950 posted on 09/30/2010 4:44:36 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings
Yes, any differences that mattered. I'm not getting at anything... at least I don't think I am. If I was born of different parents I think I would be a completely different person. Jesus Christ, not so. I think...
7,951 posted on 09/30/2010 4:47:09 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: RnMomof7

HMMMMMMMMMM


7,952 posted on 09/30/2010 4:49:10 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Legatus

Jesus came to fulfill the Plan of Salvation, that was his God given purpose and all that was important. Scripture says that his earthly appearance was nothing exceptional. All Mary needed was to be in the line of David, so once again, anything she had that was noteworthy was from God in the first place


7,953 posted on 09/30/2010 4:52:47 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: OLD REGGIE
"2. This proves a growing Catholic population in both places."

Check the Catholic birth rates in place "B" and get back to me.

7,954 posted on 09/30/2010 4:55:11 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: RnMomof7
Well you do a fine job of "not trying"..

Appreciate the compliment.

What is clearly see on these threads is Catholics have no clue what the scriptures say or mean . They do not understand basic rues of good Hermeneutics

You have in the last few days, in tune with the rest of the Reformed, have done an excellent job of posting a completely false and rather repellent rendition of what you guys call Christianity.

I ask again did the Father die on the cross? When you insist that all the trinity preforms the same action then that is what you get

No matter how many times you ask, you will get the same answer. When Scripture says it is explicitly One of the Trinity, then that One it is. Scripture says that Jesus died on the Cross, not the Father. You may wish to look up your Old Testament Gospels or wherever it is that you keep them.

7,955 posted on 09/30/2010 4:58:31 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: RnMomof7
The Gospels are Old Testament in that they are written to show us the Divinity of Christ and that he kept the Ot law perfectly. The Nt does not begin until after the resurrection and the birth of the church

Your Trinitarian beliefs are demonstrably heretical, and your description of the Gospels as OT are equally as false. Do these beliefs come from you or are they taught by your cult?

7,956 posted on 09/30/2010 5:01:14 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: RnMomof7
Wow Catholics really hate Paul, the man God assigned to be the primary teacher to the NT church .

No, we dislike the deification of Paul. Paul was not assigned to be the primary teacher to the NT church. There is no Scripture to back that up. Paul was a great bishop and evangelizer - that much is plain. But Paul is not the god that the Reformed especially have created while eliminating a goodly portion of his actual writings.

7,957 posted on 09/30/2010 5:04:50 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: count-your-change
There is always that final and best argument of waving the hands in the air and saying “it’s a MYSTERY!”.

So many "mysteries ' are answered in scripture ...

7,958 posted on 09/30/2010 5:05:34 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: OLD REGGIE
That is open to interpretation. If Jesus really meant the thief would be with Him in paradise on that day it was the only person Jesus promised an immediate "trip to paradise" when he died.

Okay.

7,959 posted on 09/30/2010 5:06:40 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: OLD REGGIE; kosta50
"Yup, and even the right to tell him he doesn't belong on a "Christian" thread."

This isn't a caucus thread, its a religion thread otherwise we could make the case for banning Paulians and non-Trinitarians.

7,960 posted on 09/30/2010 5:06:45 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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