Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
Kosta is the one who said, “No it doesn’t,” in ost 7057 — not Natural Law in post 7026. Your post shows you are replying to 7026, yet you quote Kosta in 7057.
So why not just destroy the letters, or forge replacements?
While googling around I found these...
Lord, my God, who am I that you should forsake me? The child of your love – and now become as the most hated one – the one you have thrown away as unwanted – unloved. I call, I cling, I want, and there is no One to answer – no One on Whom I can cling – no, No One. Alone. The darkness is so dark – and I am alone. - Unwanted, forsaken. - The loneliness of the heart that wants love is unbearable.-Where is my faith?-Even deep down, right in, there is nothing but emptiness and darkness.-My God-how painful is this unknown pain. It pains without ceasing...What are you doing my God to one so small? When You asked to imprint Your Passion on my heart – is this the answer?
If this brings You glory, if You get a drop of joy from this – if souls are brought to You – if my suffering satiates Your Thirst – here I am, Lord, with joy I accept all to the end of life - & I will smile at Your Hidden Face – always.
My own Jesus, do with me as you wish - as long as you wish. I am Your own.”
IF those are in context it puts a dramatically different spin on the whole thing. Many of us could write that last bit and mean it... as long as things didn't get too rough. To write it under her circumstances indicates a quality of Faith that makes what the rest of call faith look like a pale imitation.
Probably because there have been a lot of those letters floating around for 50 years to a lot of people.
I replied to the post I replied to.
I haven't even read Kosta's post 7057 yet.
Christ “great commission” was to preach the good news of the kingdom not the good news of the soup kitchen. Disciples were to be made not “bread Christians”.
In Matthew chapter 6 Jesus showed that praying for our physical needs was proper but not the first priority or second or even third.
So the works of charity are fine but they are not a substitute for disciple making and cannot overshadow it.
Like the good tree's good fruitage was evidence of what the tree was so what we do or produce is evidence of the faith we already have as Paul cites examples in Hebrews chapter 11 by saying, “by faith” this was done, some act took place.
In fact vs. 6 says “without faith its impossible to please God”.
“And of course Rome teaches salvation by good works. We've heard for days now that Mother Teresa was saved by her good works and her charity despite the fact that she admitted she had no faith in Christ.”
Sad if true.
Oh, right, whatever you say.
It is also interesting in context that she chose the name Teresa after Thérèse de Lisieux, the Little Flower, patron saint of missionaries, Doctor of the Church…
Sadder if knowingly false.
I don’t know it to be true or false to my own satisfaction.
In her case its not a question I’ll concern myself with over much, just that it would be sad if true.
Do you ever read what you post?
The statement: "We've heard for days now that Mother Teresa was saved by her good works and her charity…" is false.
In her case its not a question I’ll concern myself with over much, just that it would be sad if true.
And, again, sadder if the statement is knowingly false.
Did you not read the scriptures?
Her faith or lack of it, true or false, right or wrong is of no importance to me even if it is to others. If you think she had vast faith, fine, if you think otherwise, fine. The state of her faith is not my concern. period.
Faith is a gift. The rest of your list are fruits of the Holy Spirit.
Paul makes it clear (and Protestants never quote those verses ad nauseum like the banal ones that are doctrinally approved) that to him a Christian who is worthy of the kingdom of heaven is "spotless" in his heart, intention, deeds, conduct, walk, as well as faith, and, honestly, I have yet to see one.
And yet no one is "spotless" but Christ. But Paul still sees Christians who are saved by grace. So how does that work? By Christ's "spotlessness" being imputed to the believer. Therefore there is no boasting among Christians because their own piety didn't earn the prize; Christ earned it for them and gave it to them simply because it pleased His Father to do so.
The bad news is that, even according to the Protestant demigod Paul, God will judge you by your deeds
You continue to display a vast ignorance of what "justification" means. God does not declare our own works righteous, because all have sinned. God declares men righteous on the basis of the good work of Christ within them, freely given by God to whom He will for His own good pleasure. (cue the continuing complaint about God acting according to His own "good pleasure.")
There is this banal repetition of the same old same old, Dr. E.
Well, it's a repetition anyway. Hope eternal.
God wants his people to be pristine and dead to sin and ungliness and immorality and lies, etc.
You bet. And with the free, unearned gift of the indwelling Holy Spirit, men will be able to resist such temptations. Are Christians perfect? Nope, as Paul tells us. If we say we have no sin the truth is not in us. But by His grace, we persevere.
The idea of a sure comfy first class limo ride to heaven with Christ carrying your luggage is a fairytale
You sound like Mother Teresa, not Scripture.
"(Jesus) who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed." -- 1 Peter 2:24
Protestants, however, seem certian she is in hell.
Nope. Protestants say they hope she came to faith in Christ before her last breathe because without that faith she is in a whole lot of hurt.
"But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." -- Hebrews 11:6
That sentence is either fact or fiction.
I read them.
Do you believe the writer of Hebrews or not?
"But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." -- Hebrews 11:6
Do you ever post anything but sarcastic blather?
I was responding to your comment.
Luther was wracked with agony that he could not reconcile with the Catholic Church as the following quotes prove:
"We concede -- as we must -- that so much of what they (the Catholic Church) say is true: that the papacy has God's word and the office of the apostles, and that we have received Holy Scriptures, Baptism, the Sacrament, and the pulpit from them. What would we know of these if it were not for them?" - Sermon on the gospel of St. John, chaps. 14 - 16 (1537), in vol. 24 of LUTHER'S WORKS, St. Louis, Mo.: Concordia, 1961, 304.
"This one will not hear of Baptism, and that one denies the sacrament, another puts a world between this and the last day: some teach that Christ is not God, some say this, some say that: there are as many sects and creeds as there are heads. No yokel is so rude but when he has dreams and fancies, he thinks himself inspired by the Holy Ghost and must be a prophet." - De Wette III, 61. quoted in O'Hare, THE FACTS ABOUT LUTHER, 208.
"Noblemen, townsmen, peasants, all classes understand the Evangelium better than I or St. Paul; they are now wise and think themselves more learned than all the ministers." - Walch XIV, 1360. quoted in O'Hare, Ibid, 209.
In Matthew chapter 6 Jesus showed that praying for our physical needs was proper but not the first priority or second or even third.
So the works of charity are fine but they are not a substitute for disciple making and cannot overshadow it.
AMEN!
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