Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[wagglebee]

But since 1948 and 1967 things are moving faster and faster. sort of on an exponential curve.

The Black Death hit Europe in 1347 and spread across Europe over the next three years. The mortality rate varied by region (it was deadlier in warmer climates), but anywhere from a quarter to two-thirds of the people died depending on where they lived. It was a plague that mankind had never seen before, it was not unusual for a person who was fine when they woke up in the morning to be dead by nightfall. Entire villages simply ceased to exist. And then, just to make things worse, it came back with a vengance ten years later and then kept returning every ten years or so for centuries though it became less deadly (it is believed that there is some genetic immunity to the Plague and this is why the death rates dropped).

So, tell us, what has happened in the past fifty years or so that resembles this?

[marbren]

Maybe I should use the word true instead of real. Our preconceived notions may not be true. So what, Jesus Christ is true. Trust in him not what you think.

[metmom]

I did read it.

[1000 silverlings]

The spiritual world is real and we are spiritual beings. The world we think of as “real” is a world that our human brains struggle to make sense of. Studying quantum physics is an eye opener

[Mad Dawg]

You were criticizing not offering the chalice, right?
That suggested that you thought both species should be offered.

So then the question is how and to what extent is partaking of both kinds necessary. For example, would it be necessary for whom gluten provokes a nasty reaction to partake of the Sacred Body, even though the 'accidents' remain? What EXACTLY would someone who could not safely eat the "accidents" of bread be missing if he only received the Precious Blood.

Good theology involves more than merely mocking those with whom one disagrees. If one triumphantly makes an observation or contemptuously asks a question, there will be interpretations of the observation and answers to the questions.

If the person trumpeting observations and questions does not read the answers or, at any rate respond to them, there's a suggestion of darkening counsel with words without knowledge.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Is the truth in numbers? If that's the case, the Roman Catholic majority who voted for Obama (54%) would be correct to have handed the Presidency to the Kenyan.

But that Roman Catholic majority was dead wrong. Yet again..

[wmfights]

There are two things at least going on here. A person who at least receives the Sacraments of initiation (Baptism, first Holy Communion and usually Confirmation) can return to the practice of the Faith at any time. Deathbed "reversions" are not uncommon. So in that sense "once Catholic always Catholic" is correct.

Thank you. I know this, or something similar has been stated on prior occasions. I'm surprised there is any controversy about it, or how it might affect numbers.

As for the parish records, generally the parish priest is supposed to do a census annually and clean up the register. The bishop is supposed to inspect the sacramental records when he visits the parish, usually for Confirmations, but I believe each diocese organizes this process on its own.

At best a subjective accounting. One small example is my wife. She has been a Born Again Christian for about 20 years now and still regularly receives mail from her former church. I could be wrong, but I believe it's mail that's sent to members.

Regardless, nobody local wants the numbers inflated and since anything that would come out of Rome concerning how many practicing Catholics there are come from publicly available reports it would be difficult to fudge the numbers.

I would be stunned if there wasn't some "puffing" all the way along the line. One reason being it's human nature to want to make ourselves seem more important (in this case bigger numbers) than we are. Another reason being any huge organization is going to have communication issues at each level. The last reason being the RC's that excommunicate themselves by supporting abortion, or other things, are never dropped from the roles.

FWIW, I don't think it's part of a huge conspiracy.

[1000 silverlings]

I learned about Charon yesterday.. :)

what kind of education did you have? We learned about charon in high school, plus he is depicted in some of the world's greatest art

[marbren]

So, tell us, what has happened in the past fifty years or so that resembles this?

The Bible talks about the death of maybe 4 billion people very soon.

[nanetteclaret]

Isn’t there something in the Bible about not bearing false witness?

Or did Luther take that out, too?

[D-fendr]

Yeah, I’m unlearned, you’re a great scholar.

Got it.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Most sources say there's one billion RCs. Somehow, even with its dwindling membership and its closed churches and seminaries, Rome has inflated that number by 20%.

lol. Roman math. II + II = X.

[wagglebee]

Numbers for Roman Catholics are all over the map. Google them. Wiki-answers and many others say "about one billion." (What's 200,000 million among friends?)

So, Wikianswers is now a reputable group? Who do THEY get their numbers from?

Wmfights has answered your objections. Rome fudges its membership rolls by including the hundreds of millions who have fled the idolatry of the papacy for Scripture's better promise.

Unless we are to count the Wiki crowd, NOBODY has given me the name of any agency that suggests a different number.

Rome lies.

Then you need to prove it, show us who says the number is wrong.

I'm surprised you question the fact that I, as a wife, know my husband's heart, and he mine. Perhaps you're not known by your wife. That would be a pity. Counseling might help.

Yes, a person such as yourself who claims omniscience can certainly benefit from counseling.

[wmfights]

So, tell us, what has happened in the past fifty years or so that resembles this?

The nation of Israel came back into existence and Jews started returning to it. A huge prophetic event.

[marbren]

Agreed, We exist in 3 dimensions maybe 4. God has unlimited dimensions. No box we can imagine can hold him.

[Natural Law]

" If that's the case, the Roman Catholic majority who voted for Obama (54%) would be correct to have handed the Presidency to the Kenyan."

To quote Truman there are lies, damned lies, and statistics. Since Catholics represent only 22% of the US population the fact is that there were far more Protestant votes cast for Obama than Catholic votes.

[Mad Dawg]

I did read it.

And now you know what the real presence of BOREDOM is!

But I don't get how you could read it and not see that it was largely in response to your statements about "actual" flesh and so on.

The link to the Tertia Pars of the Summa will get you to the correct (if confusing -- at least it confuses moi) terminology.

[D-fendr]

If Jack Van Impe had been broadcasting in the Middle Ages, all kinds of end-times prophecies would have been seen.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Anyone can google "number of Roman Catholics worldwide" and see for themselves the disparity in numbers.

Learn something.

a person such as yourself who claims omniscience

Would that be termed a "lie" since I have never claimed "omniscience" and you cannot prove your slander true?

[marbren]

What if the USA disappears in the next few weeks or months. Will faith be shaken?