Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
You are welcome. The trolls are not.
Celian doesn’t have a lot to do with Transubstantiation. But the Catholic teaching on the presence of Christ in either species means I can say to the guy who has celiac disease,”No Problem! YOU got all He has to give in the Sacrament,when you shared in the Precious Blood.”
I believe that they are part and parcel of the Biblical END TIMES GREAT DECEPTION BECAUSE they will be extremely persuasive about creating man, bioengineering all the religious greats of historyFOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSESincluding Jesusperforming miracles through their technologiesand purportedly having very convincing 3D holographic histories proving such.And I take that to say they will bioengineer Jesus. Do you disagree?
Question for you: Did you read all of Quix's comments? If so, do you believe them? I'm not asking if you believe Quix believes them, I think he does. But do you believe them?
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
Though I beg to differ . . .
I think we agree on quite a BIT more than that crucial issue.
Johnny come latelys with attitude
don’t deserve a restatement of my extremely kosher Christian beliefs and confessions of faith.
UNMITIGATED BALDERDASH.
I won’t quibble with you at the moment.
He said giving women who already buy into the UFO abductions, visionary experiences of having sex with them.
He said something that sounded like actually having sex with them and then corrected himself.
Are there not women who believe stuff like this has happened to them?
UNMITIGATED BALDERDASH BEGINNING TO END.
I’m beginning to wonder if some of them have the
CAPACITY
to read above a 3rd grade level.
Or is it that their seething bitterness clouds their vision?
I believe that they are part and parcel of the Biblical END TIMES GREAT DECEPTION BECAUSE they will be extremely persuasive about creating man, bioengineering all the religious greats of historyFOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSESincluding Jesusperforming miracles through their technologiesand purportedly having very convincing 3D holographic histories proving such.
That's all it says. Quix didn't say that he thought Jesus was bioengineered. Good grief. Read something before you try to run with it.
B.
Definitely “B”
There are verified cases where the pregnant woman visited her OBGYN say on Tuesday. Everything was fine with the baby, ultra sound, the whole checkup.
Tuesday night the woman is abducted and remembers parts of it, including that her baby is taken from her womb at the end of the first trimester.
Wednesday, she goes back to the OBGYN and there is no baby in the womb.
The problem is not so much with how much you get right, but how badly you may be getting things wrong.
This is the difference between Islam and the LDS.
Islam acknowledges a God Who is eternal, having always been God, from all time, is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient. The Muslims acknowledge that He is the Creator ex nihilo, that He is the Supreme Being and there is no one like Him. He is impassable. They acknowledge (although they wouldn't use good, Catholic language like this) that He is of a different substance, a different nature from us.
Ontologically, that is God, as known and knowable through natural revelation. In fact, with human reason unaided by supernatural grace, that's about all one CAN know about God.
Interestingly, they also believe that Jesus is the Word of God, conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin, Mary. They believe that Jesus is the Messiah. But not God. Sounds kinda sorta like Arianism. It sounds more Christian than some of the pseudo-Christians running around this spiritual “open” sewer.
The Muslims get some key things wrong, but mostly get most of the basic God stuff quite right. And they get EVERYTHING right that is knowable via human reason unaided by supernatural grace. The old God of the philosophers.
Mostly, the Muslims get nearly everything right that they've got, but they fail to get the whole picture, they fail to get it all.
But they get very little actually completely wrong.
But the LDS, on the other hand, believe that God is basically a junior level executive in a very, very large multi-level-marketing scheme. He has his own god, who has his god. They all sold enough product to get their own planet to make their own spirit children, etc., etc.
No ontologically supreme being here. No omnipresence. No being God from all eternity. He isn't impassable. He is not of a different substance from us, we share his nature and his substance.
This is a different fellow. Not God, but a god. Not monotheism but henotheism.
The LDS, unlike the Muslims, get a whole bunch of things wrong about the ontology of God. In fact, they get nearly EVERYTHING wrong about the ontology of God.
Thus, it's difficult to posit that the god of the LDS organization is the actual Supreme Being. This is why we Catholics don't recognize Mormon baptism.
I think that on the current question, it's unclear whether the belief system presented is more like the former or more like the latter. In terms of the analogy (obviously, Muslims aren't Christians, but one COULD say that they are “bad monotheists who poorly believe in the One God” - conversely, LDS are not monotheists - at all), the question is whether in the current case, it is more like the former or more like the latter.
I think that the most reasonable conclusion is that the jury is out.
I have seen no evidence that would persuade me otherwise. At all.
sitetest
they will be extremely persuasive about creating man, bioengineering all the religious greats of historycan mean: they will be extremely persuasive.. and they will bioengineer. Either way I think it's picking a nit on a thousand pound gorilla.
Merely exploring your thoughts on this matter.
Then why are the Catholics running with it claiming that the non-Catholics on this forum think that Jesus was bioengineered by space aliens?
It was Catholic posters who took it and misrepresented what Quix said without the courtesy of going back to him and asking for clarification.
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