Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
Thus, the Report continues the conspiracy of silence that has prevailed in the OPC for three decades. It leaves the erroneous impression that the serious doctrinal problems are outside the denomination, not within it. The Report gives false comfort to those who think the OPC is still a bastion of Biblical orthodoxy. On the contrary, the Report, and the 2006 General Assembly’s commendation of it, both maintain the OPC as a safe haven for those who teach errorit also says that "Last year The Trinity Foundation published Paul Elliott’s book, Christianity and Neo-Liberalism: The Spiritual Crisis in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and Beyond. That book examines in detail the false doctrine of salvation now being taught in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church
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Men within the OPC, including at least one member of the Committee itself, teach heresy regarding the Gospel and many other fundamentals of the faith.
GOOD. What search efforts I spent on it last night seemed to turn up something similar. I didn’t find any ranking but from my efforts I wouldn’t be surprised at the #50 listing.
Thanks.
I hope most others on FR share your perspective. However, given the responses, I’m not encouraged on that note. You are one of the 3 or 4 reasonable RC’s hereon.
I haven’t been able to enlist the rest of the Proddys in a reasonably fair brief survey of the RC’s in our social networks on such matters. Maybe I’ll have to do my own more extensively. What I have done indicates that the percentages are frightful in terms of those folks who would subscribe to the Fararro sentiments.
Nevertheless, I am encouraged that you found the book low on the rankings. I’m glad to be wrong in my guesses about its popularity.
Tooo frightfully true.
I was rather shocked the first time I read that post.
It’s sooooo encouraging to observe such a chronic habit of being
WRONG.
INDEED.
Good points.
So you deny the letters written by Mother Teresa? Nearly 50 years of letters revealing a loss of faith. Letters where she wrote she had even stopped praying.
Were those letters forgeries?
The book about Mother Teresa’s loss of faith, “Mother Teresa: Come Be My Light,” was compiled by a Roman Catholic.
Was he lying?
Mad Dawg and you say somehow her letters distort what she really meant. Mad Dawg says comments about her letters are “morally and physically revolting.”
Wouldn’t it make more sense to wonder why Mother Teresa lost her faith than to slander those who notice such things and are saddened by the fact that Rome preaches such a threadbare Gospel?
Soberingly important points, it appears to me.
We didn’t always know this, but we do know this now after reading her many letters. She did not pray. She doubted the existence of God and the divinity of Jesus Christ. And she died in those black thoughts.
That is not “blessed.”
That is bereft and alone and bitter and ignorant.
I pity her. We can only hope she received the mercy she did not believe existed.
AAARRRRGGGGHHH. INCREDIBLE.
I think that’s a BIT overstated, for me. He seems like somewhat of a paradoxical tortured soul, to me.
And far more severe than I find remotely attractive in a Christian.
Maybe I’m not fully awake but I don’t understand how I’m confusing you.
Certainly within the RCC are so many factions as to make the wail about a plethera of Proddy denominations totally ludicrous.
Certainly the Ferraro book represents AT A MINIMUM millions of RC’s perspectives on Mary. That’s FRIGHTFUL TO THE MAX. The RC’s may think that the tiniest fraction of RC’s believe those things about Mary. We have seen just on FR that such an allegation would be quite false.
I haven’t yet succeeded in finding the kind of survey research that must be available on that score. I got interrupted in that search and haven’t gotten back to it. I know from inital probes into my RC social contacts that it’s a frightful percentage.
I don’t dwell inot RC stuff very often but, I have to say, I’ve never seen anything like this.
Does the common RC believe this dribble?
“Queen of the Universe”?? Sounds Paganish deluxe!
I think it varies with
—family upbringing
—particular congregation and leadership
—region of the country
—educational experiences
—mentor influences
Am trying to find some stats on such things.
INDEED—PAGANISH DELUXE IS AN APT TERM.
I think it varies with
—family upbringing
—particular congregation and leadership
—region of the country
—educational experiences
—mentor influences
Am trying to find some stats on such things.
Whatever happened to the good ol’ “live by the ten commandments and questions will be answered in due time” religion?
The RCC is a colluded mess of mind bending trash talk. No wonder they have so many issues...no one knows what the hell is going on.
Me neither, and I expect never to hear of it again. As clumsily written as it is, though, I find it far less disturbing than people so seriously disordered by hatred that they have to seek out obscure sources to feed it (or "Dowd-ify" legitimate sources), as if they're afraid the hatred might flicker out, when they apparently prefer to treasure it and nurture it and lasciviously drool over it.
Is that a form of morbid delectation? I can't even imagine putting that much time and effort into something repellent to me.
It’s confusing me, because we’ve all been told there are no denominations throughout the history of the RCC, yet it sure appears here that even today within the RCC, there are factions of Catholics who accept Marionism and some who do not. How can there have never been any differences amongst the Catholic Church, yet such disparity on a fundamental area of their worship?
Does this mean any RCC building named “Our Blessed Lady of -——” really isn’t part of the Catholic Church and is antiCatholic? Or does it mean real Catholics no longer accept the doctrine of the Hypostatic Union, but instead place their faith in Mary primal to Jesus Christ?
You put well what seems to be far too true.
Thx thx.
BEARING FALSE WITNESS YET AGAIN.
1. I didn’t seek it out. I was accosted with it first hereon.
2. It was claimed by a fierce RC that the claims made about the book couldn’t be true.
3. I decided to get the book and see for myself.
4. It was worse than the Proddy originally mentioning it had said.
5. I won’t hold my breath for your apology.
INDEED.
NOW PERHAPS you understand much better why I refer to the mess as
THE VATICAN ALICE IN WONDERLAND SCHOOL OF THEOLOGY AND REALITY MANGLING.
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