Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[RnMomof7]

MD, the unsaved do good works for men too.. but that does not make them saved

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Man made religion. Man will make up traditions and rituals and ignore what God says. Bad stuff-- it leads to murder.

Exactly.

They who worship idols become like them.

[1000 silverlings]

Case in point, ask unsaved people if they believe they have a soul. they will say yes. Ask them if they believe in God-- some say yes, some say no. Invariably they will insist that they are good people, able to "do good" without God. Well that's not what Christ says.

[Legatus]

Just because I wouldn’t want you to miss the truth...

Ditto:

Are we to understand that when Calvin wrote "sentence of death" he meant that Servetus was to be preached to death?

I hope that sentence of death will at least be passed on him; but I desired that the severity of the punishment be mitigated. "Calvin to William Farel, August 20, 1553, Bonnet, Jules (1820–1892) Letters of John Calvin, Carlisle, Penn: Banner of Truth Trust, 1980, pp. 158–159. ISBN 0-85151-323-9." Wikipedia entry on Michael Servetus

[Dr. Eckleburg]

"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" - Romans 1:22

[OLD REGGIE]

Uh...

I hope that sentence of death will at least be passed on him; but I desired that the severity of the punishment be mitigated. "Calvin to William Farel, August 20, 1553, Bonnet, Jules (1820–1892) Letters of John Calvin, Carlisle, Penn: Banner of Truth Trust, 1980, pp. 158–159. ISBN 0-85151-323-9." Wikipedia entry on Michael Servetus

BRING OUT... THE COMFY CHAIR!

So it was "kill him, but do it gently"? Oh, well that's alright then, that changes everything.

The question was not Calvin's attitude, which I think was harsh and cruel, but was Did Calvin Have Servetus Burned At The Stake?

[1000 silverlings]

Well their idols are made in their own(mens) image in the first place. God gave revelation revealing Who He is— the Old Testament and the New Testament. Refusing to believe this revelation takes them off the cliff.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Are we to understand that when Calvin wrote "sentence of death"

Calvin did not issue any "sentence of death" on Servetus.

In Geneva, there was a distinct separation of church and state. Calvin was a member of the church. The city council condemned Servetus.

As the New Jersey housewives would say, "Pay attention!"

[Natural Law]

"The difference between Rome and Calvin, of course, is that “punishment” according to Calvin meant a reprimand in the Sunday sermon whereas Rome’s “punishment” entails burning the heretic at the stake."

Sorry, I don't believe you.

[Natural Law]

"The difference between Rome and Calvin, of course, is that “punishment” according to Calvin meant a reprimand in the Sunday sermon whereas Rome’s “punishment” entails burning the heretic at the stake."

Sorry, I don't believe you.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

lol. Head-first. 8~)

[1000 silverlings]

That’s right, like Judas their bowels burst asunder and their cranium contents splatter on the rocks below.

[RnMomof7]

To me, both of those propositions are nonsense, so Mother Teresa is right when she says of "virtuous" adherents of other religions "then there is something else growing there."

yea damnation

[Legatus]

You left out the operative part of the sentence I wrote: “The reason the potato blight was a problem is that was all the people could grow in the poor soil they were allowed to farm for personal use.”

Fertile lands were used for crops sold abroad by the landlords. Ireland at the time had some of the richest land in the British Isles, it was a net exporter of food during the potato blight.

Snide comments at the end of posts only point to the snideness of the poster rather than any truthiness of the content.

[narses]

Sorry, I don't believe you.

You show true wisdom.

[Mad Dawg]

For decades I thought something like:

A corrupt tree ( not attached to the vine can not do work that is pleasing to him, even if done in HIS name)

Now it's not so much that I don't think that as I think that it betrays the fundamental "What's in it for me?" attitude of some forms of Calvinism (and of some (most?) forms of Islam).

Good deeds are not enough to save someone, and good deeds done in order to 'earn' salvation are a waste of time.

But good deeds are good, whether or not they earn salvation, and it is good to do them.

But for some, if a Christian, in love for God, gave his or her life to do good deeds, those who profess NOT to care about works would criticize the person because they didn't make proselytes of the people to whom they ministered.

I am reminded again of the Seventh Day Adventist doctor when i was in the hospital for pericarditis my first year of seminary. He wasn't my doc, he had nothing to do with my case. But he heard a seminarian was in there.

My having had two spells of quite unbelievable pain, my being drugged up on drugs that made me a bit slow of thought and a lot labile of emotion, these made no difference to him. He was, by God gonna convert me.

Or the Calvinist-ish pastor in Columbus Mississippi who really saw no need for a church response to alcoholism because, "After all, they're going to hell anyway."

So good deeds are wasted unless they are aimed at somebody's salvation. What a tit-for-tat and ungenerous view of God!

[Dr. Eckleburg]

I don't care that you don't believe me. It's to be expected.

"...what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?" -- 2 Corinthians 6:14

[Dr. Eckleburg]

ping to 1,417.

Flee idolatry.

[narses]

Flee heresy. Cultists fall for anything. Next you will embrace UFOlogy. Find Our Lord. Find Peace.

[Mad Dawg]

I NEED that T-shirt!