Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
Wmfights repeatedly asks Roman Catholics "What is the Gospel?" And time and again they have no answer. So I'll ask you. What is the Gospel?
I have also asked a few times, most times without a response. One did respond with the Apostles or Nicene creed.
Most evangelicals would hammer this softball wihtout reservation. It seems many RC's think the Gospel is the contents of the 4 Gospels of the NT.
The sacramental treadmill was not good news to me.
Hinn's junky-ier stuff is ALMOST as bad as
some groups believing that
Mary, the mother of Jesus' earthly Body
--never had any other blood children;
--has ascended bodily into heaven already;
--is Queen of Heaven;
--is the only route to Salvation;
--participates in the sanctity of the Godhead;
--has bumped Holy Spirit aside as drawer of all to God;
--is Mediatrix;
--saves all souls;
--has wrought salvation herself;
--destroyed sin herself;
--is Holy Spirit's eternal Spouse [I'm curious, given the NT Scripture by Paul--does that make Mary an adulteress or Joseph an adulterer?];
--bumps Jesus aside as the Tree of LIfe;
--ruler of hell that's defeated by HER power;
--is THE dispenser of ALL graces;
--leaps tall FOSSILIZED EDIFICES in a single bound;
--is faster than a speeding white hanky;
--doesn't even have to worry about kryptonite;
--has a vast fleet of motherships at her disposal;
--hid all her other blood children under a very big apron their whole lives;
--walks on water;
--feeds the universe with merely her smile;
--. . .
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Here's the title:
And it carries the official sanctions of:
ni•hil ob•stat
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.
WITH RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHING’S IMPRIMATUR
Let me track down the brief portion of quotes upthread . . .
Here they are:
However, as we've seen through a variety of sources--a pile of them in Ferraro's manual about the Rosary--the Roman Catholic et al/Vatican Edifice disagrees with a lot of the claims of RC's hereon to the contrary.
p.32
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[Quixicated emphases below]
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .
p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.
5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.
6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.
"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor
p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence
p41
"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18
p43
1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"
p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.'
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[Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]
p46
7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue."
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[Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]
9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.'
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[Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]
p47
4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.'
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[Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]
5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought."
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[QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]
p47
10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."
p50
8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"
p50
4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."
lol, you're a god
You taking blips out of context to attack is standard unbeliever salvation-by-works propaganda, and asking someone to make a judgment based on your mendacity is beyond reason.
There is enough anti-biblical attack fodder in your posts here to make Hinn or any other TV minister look pristine.
They believe in a dualistic God,a God with hate and love as essence- in other words ...a schizophrenic with imperfections.
A calvinist blend of marcionites and valentinians
> “Cracker? You call the body of Christ a cracker?”
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No, YOU call the body of Christ a cracker.
I know from God’s word that the communion bread and cup are a simple REMEMBRANCE as the Lord himself stated. It is the Catholics that have a seance instead of communion.
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Why are you pinging me to this? Please don’t ping me unless it is in response to a post that I made.
> “Gay or straight, Catholic or Protestant there was absolutely nothing noble about any of the nobility. Religion was merely another tool in their bag with which to exert more control and extract more wealth”
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How novel; another strawman!
I am not a Monarchist! - All of the monarchists I know of on FR are Catholics.
I merely object to your false portrayal of an individual, about whom sufficient is known to show your post as pure mendacity.
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Joining the trail of deliberate mendacious misrepresentation are we?
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Good grief! I have to bookmark this post, too. What a travesty against Jesus Christ and God's word.
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What a fine posting of yet again
a tried and true fossilized old news factoid about some RC silliness.
LOL.
I’d say that Alex has injected a refreshing beam of Light, Life, and Truth into a thread dying form the morbid cancer of idolatry.
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If someone wants to know, yes (as long a it's not a habit).
Perhaps I missed your sources and their “evidence” for your assertion that the apostle a John was “a myth” and
Just Google it.
You quote me out of context. Why? I gave you a reasons why prosopos is to be understood as it is understood. If you doubt them, check them out yourself. If you disagree then state why. If you don't know, then keep it to yourself.
"John's" Gospel is an interpolation. Check it yourself.
My question "What do you really know about Christ except from a select number of books the Church picked for you? Books that have no basis in fact and events no one else has recorded" is a valid question. Rather than ridicule (which is what people who don't have answers do) try answering it.
Yes, I, being the “average uneducated reader”, must have completely overlooked all that “verifiable evidence”. tsk, tsk
Seems that way. You have to do work if you want to verify information. Ask questions, do some research. Don't expect things brought to you on a silver platter. No one is under any obligation to do your homework.
WELL PUT.
Most evangelicals would hammer this softball wihtout reservation. It seems many RC's think the Gospel is the contents of the 4 Gospels of the NT.
Not even that. Most RCs figure the entire Gospel message is contained in the Beatitudes, forgetting who is being addressed in the sermon on the mount.
The sacramental treadmill was not good news to me.
Amen. Men are not saved by their own good works; men are saved by the good work of Christ on the cross graciously and freely imputed to them by God for His glory.
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