Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[D-fendr]

I wouldn't necessarily see God becoming human as "A form"

I mean in the literal sense - shape and dimension. Trees have form, cars have form. Humans have form. Absent the Incarnation, in Jewish theology, we cannot ascribe any form to God.

for He of course has no comparison to wood and metal images/idols "forms" designed and molded by men...

The Godhead, correct, as in Judaism. However, with Christ, God incarnate, we have a "comparison," something similar we can relate to. You could say that's one of the key points of Incarnation.

[Lera]

Then WHY are Calvinist/Reformed women so darned BOSSY????

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Why do you constantly hurl the word “Calvinist” as if it were an insult ?

You are giving me the impression that Catholic women are vexatious ;)

[MarkBsnr]

That would likely be your personal false christ that meets in your crop circle.

Since Catholics have no personal god, and do not worship aliens from Betegeuse, and you guys all ally with them, I'd suggest that you look in the mirror when you say that .

[MarkBsnr]

You guys are all crazy. This is the Toronto blessing:

[Jaded]

Thanks for the laugh.

[annalex]

In Greek, both Koine and modern, προσωπος means "face" as well as "person", and can sometime be translated "presence".

[annalex]

I didn't suggest “presence” was acceptable in Matt. 22:16 or Gal. 2:6.

So you understand now that "prosopos" at times can only be translated as "person? So why the long post asking for an example of such?

[editor-surveyor]

Unfortunately, if it’s works, it leads not to salvation, but to outer darkness.

Better to do it God’s way.

[count-your-change]

Outstanding! And did they teach you that John was a mythical character and were they able to teach mind reading of Paul?
Makes a person wonder how Christ managed without them.

[count-your-change]

Indeed the “serious scholars and theologians” criticized Jesus for not having attended the recognized schools. (John 7:15)

[count-your-change]

“So you understand now that “prosopos” at times can only be translated as “person?”

In order to avoid replowing the ground...define “person” above, and then perhaps I can move on the the rest of your question.

[Quix]

INDEED. WELL PUT.

the seductive evil of ‘did God really say . . .’

[caww]

nobody on the "other side" cares that the attack was fabricated from misinformation.

Some care to choose their fights...others are not worth the trouble Legatus. You can accuse me this was an attack fabricated all you want. I found that site and that information taken from catholic writings...thought it interesting these catholics supported no images and idols in the church. Be they Popes, or cardinals or kings of that error.......The fact there was controversy over idols in the church, no matter who initiated it..and idols/images were once again introduced into the church........ The point....idols/images were eliminated and then re-introduced into the church.

I am not looking for smoking guns...nobody needs to...the idea is to find the truth. Some just want to argue..others want to debate and discover the truth. Sometimes the only solution is to agree to disagree.

Interesting is you did not mention all the scripture references given...nor did you comment about them....which none the less supported my position that God says we are not to bow down to idols/images...and that theme is carried thru the New Testament as well.

[annalex]

Well, in the verses from Matthew, Galatians and 2 Cor. that we have seen, “person” is someone who can be or not be respected, can pray, or give and receive authority to others to act on his behalf. Neither of these abilities pertain to a presence but they pertain to a person.

[editor-surveyor]

Hogwash!

Each Catholic has their own private nonscriptural ‘christ.’

The real one wouldn’t enter one of their ornate whited sepulcres.
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[editor-surveyor]

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> “This is the Toronto blessing”

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For you, I have not the slightest doubt that it is.
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[Quix]

INDEED.

Well put.

And . . . wild-fire tends to be an improvement over

luke-warmness and no fire.

[Quix]

You are giving me the impression that Catholic women are vexatious ;)

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[metmom]

God commands us to repent.

Didn’t you know that?

It’s not a Calvinist concept. It’s God’s idea. Pointing it out isn’t irrelevant to your post.

[metmom]

And I would caution that anyone who thinks Catholics don't know the difference, that pride goeth before a fall.

Are you really that Scripturally illiterate?

Proverbs 16:18 Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.