Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[1000 silverlings]

I dont disagree with any of that, and to tell you the truth, I really dont expect anyone here to offer any good reasons for what is happening, but denying that it is happening is dishonest. It's a huge movement, a tidal wave in fact.

It's appeal is to the educated (what's left ofthe middle class)and to the young, so it's not going away.

It can bring chaos and I think that's what you're going to see a lot of, before it's all over

[1000 silverlings]

yes, that’s one opinion, now how about all the other opinions, all Catholic, starting their own churches, letting clergy marry, speaking in tongues, throwing out the rosary and statues, etc. refocusing on Christ, -— they say they’re right too. and which is right?

[Legatus]

Go up a level at that site WOW they don't like Charismatics there. There are some people around here (and I won't name them so I don't have to ping them) who would go absolutely hog in a trough wild on the apparitions page. They don't like Medjugorje, Garabandal, Ave Maria University, the Legion of Christ... they don't like a LOT of stuff there. I may have to dig around and see what all turns up. Betcha they don't think much of Protestantism either...

[RnMomof7]

Not at all

[Dr. Eckleburg]

So, Calvinists are intercessors between their fellow man and the Triune God?

Living, breathing men are instructed by God to pray for our fellow men to the Triune God alone.

Prayer is for our benefit. It brings us closer to God. It reminds us how dependent we are on Him for everything. It reminds us other men share our burdens. It reminds us to be kind and empathetic as Christ was kind and empathetic.

do you think God doesn't know what we or other men need? That He has to be informed of that fact by us?

"But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him." -- Matthew 6:7-8

So if God already knows our prayers and what we need, why do we still ask Him for them? To make sure we know what we need and from whom all blessings flow.

[RnMomof7]

We can't understand. Ever. We're not *elect.*

None of us know that Judith...

[Quix]

Now now . . .

There ya go agin . . .

troubling those poor souls with

TRUTHS they have PhD’s in ignoring and denying.

How can you be soooooooooooo cruel!
/s

[caww]

But D-Fender...you are speaking of paganism and Egyptian gods and the like...and although Israel adopted some of these while in Egypt God was very clear not to include them in their worship of Him. He was not to be represented as the pagan Gods were in any shape manner of form.

Since we have been grafted into the “vine” Israel and are now also called his..though we are not under their laws I see nothing in scripture where man was to incorporate idols nor images...in fact the new testament continues with the theme not to do this.

[Quix]

[D-fendr]

That reply reads to me like another rephrase of:

“I don’t know an icon from an idol, but I know a Catholic when I see one.”

[Quix]

Well put.

[wagglebee]

Would you prefer documentation?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2578704/posts?page=10231#10231

[caww]

How would you know Judith, about reformed or otherwise...state your objections so we can discuss and debate.

[Quix]

Do you think pagans believe their prayers are being heard by the inanimate statue of Isis they’re praying to or the spirit of Isis which that statue represents?
NO ONE says Rome believes that cement and marble are hearing their prayers. The lie Rome teaches is that what the cement and marble represent hears and answers their prayers - some dead person who may or may not be in heaven.

Which is false. No one and nothing hears and answers our prayers but God alone.

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WELL PUT.

THX.

[D-fendr]

you are speaking of paganism and Egyptian gods and the like

Yes, because they were used as an analog for definitional purposes. I tried to illustrate through this example the two parts of the commandments under discussion: idols and other gods.

Idols are prohibited - even to our God. Other gods are prohibited - with or without idols.

My post was an attempt to define and delineate the commandments using the example given of Isis. It also applies to us. No idols, no other gods. We must understand what these mean if we hope to follow the commandments.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

The point is about creating a false statement with which the Church can continually be bludgeoned

Bible-believing Christians on FR continually offer evidence from the Roman Catholic catechism, encyclicals and writings from popes, various church fathers and other Roman Catholic apologists.

If you take exception to that evidence, then get some new evidence. Try the Bible.

Calvinists are sworn icon breakers.

AMEN! Thanks for noticing.

The means by which it is done is not important, the ends justify the means.

Well, that's certainly not true. The Scriptures are the means which prove the truth of Christianity. Read them yourself. Pray for the Holy Spirit to guide your understanding.

Nothing done in the advancement of Calvinism and the defense of the elect is really a sin to them.

What sin are Calvinists committing by putting God's word into evidence? Rome can't refute the word of God, so Rome substitutes "icons" and dead saints and co-redeemers and co-mediators and "another Christ" in place of the truth found in Scripture.

[Quix]

my mail box here and I’m sure others are too, is constantly filled with prayer requests. And despite rumors to the contrary, I dont ask if their babies are baptized, illegitimate or even Islamic. We pray, to God, in Christ’s name

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IMhO,

you are one of the more faithful prayer warriors in others’ behalf!

[1000 silverlings]

Well these days how can you tell a Catholic when you see one? Are they the ones with the Mary icons, going to the traditional church, or are they the ones in the Pentecostal Catholic church, tossing out the Mary icons? What about if they are seen in a Catholic church praying during mass in tongues and prophesying? they claim to be Catholic too.

This is getting to be too confusing. Are there now 140 million popes?

[Quix]

Hmmmmmmmm

Sounds like an

‘ignorance is bliss’ ploy, to me.

Facts are still facts.

[1000 silverlings]

thanks quix