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To: Pyro7480
Thanks for the explanation. Really. 'Cause I'd like to believe that there's another reason besides filling pews and coffers, which is the conclusion that seems evident.

Having said that, your explanation indicates that there is a management crisis in the Catholic Church. There is a huge group of US citizens whose quality of life has been degraded by the illegals. We're fed up with it and there's going to be a reckoning.

It would seem that the smart play would be for senior management in your organization to direct middle management and front line workers to take NO position on the issue, or seek other employment.

Perhaps senior management needs to hear this from their consumers - you.

80 posted on 08/21/2010 12:01:41 AM PDT by GunsAndBibles (God save Calif. - 'cause it's gonna take a miracle.)
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To: GunsAndBibles; markomalley

Please assist in prayer that it happens. :-) Also, do read FReeper markomalley’s excellent post #47.


81 posted on 08/21/2010 12:10:18 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: GunsAndBibles

Many of these “Princes” of the Church are so entrenched.
If bankrupting Archdioceses from lawsuits because of pedophilic and abusive priests wasn’t enough which happened under their watch. They are still here espousing more of their “social justice”, “liberation philosophy”.
They knew this *hit was going on.

They also have the “bully” pulpit from which to propagandize their flock. Hey if the Cardinal says it’s the Word of God or from the Bible, who am I to argue with him?

The fact is, it is not in the Bible. It’s either taken out of context or twisted to mean what they want it to mean.

When enough parishoners wake up and pass on the collection plate... then maybe!?


82 posted on 08/21/2010 12:14:58 AM PDT by throwabrick (Zer-0 doesn't know what to do! Saul Alinsky never wrote about it.)
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To: GunsAndBibles

‘It would seem that the smart play would be for senior management in your organization to direct middle management and front line workers to take NO position on the issue, or seek other employment.’

If you would look at some Catholic Caucus threads (remember, no posting) you would see that there is plenty of objection to the positions of the liberals within the Church. However the Church is not governed as an absolute monarchy, it is closer to the medieval system, with a hierarchy of higher and lower ranking clergy, who can only be removed in agreement with Canon law which is not fast acting. Even in replacing retiring bishops, the Pope must confer with lower clergymen. In the last couple of decades there has been a vast improvement in the quality of bishops, but the Church does not turn on a dime.

As far as the Immigration Laws of the United States is concerned there is no one responsible for promoting a Catholic position on them. It is up to American Catholics, particularly laymen, under the moral guidance of the clergy to participate in American politics to set the ‘Catholic position’.


102 posted on 08/21/2010 5:22:44 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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