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To: The Theophilus; Normandy; aMorePerfectUnion
I think you missed Ampu's point.

No, quite honestly I think the point was fully understood. But the common apologetic tactic I've seen mormons here use is to obfuscate the point by leaving the definitions loose and fast. You clearly caught that aspect of it. It is deceiving to play that way with definitions - however it is necessary to prevent the unknowing from really discovering what they DO mean. I'm still waiting for norm to answer a very simple question:

Why do mormons reject the worship of Jehovah as the true God, as done by the Israelites in the OT. Definitions.

99 posted on 08/20/2010 7:33:29 PM PDT by Godzilla ( 3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla
It is deceiving to play that way with definitions - however it is necessary to prevent the unknowing from really discovering what they DO mean.

I think you are describing the "doctrine" of providing "milk" to the mark, and when the candidate has been sufficiently duped, then they get the "meat" where we discover "only begotten Son" really means that Jesus had a brother called Lucifer. How they explain away this is that the "Heavenly Father" allegedly is "the father of the spirits of all mankind", so Jesus and Lucifer are "spiritual sons".

The real disturbing thing is, the apologetics for the Jesus and Lucifer brotherhood is made by them from Acts 17:28-29. To the biblically ignorant, the quote "For we are also his offspring..." makes it sound like Paul agrees with the concept of "spriritual brotherhood". What the deceiver doesn't tell you (because they somehow deleted that phrase when quoting it to you) is the part where Paul, while speaking to the Greek idolators says about that quote "as also some of your own poets have said". That is, the quote from which the LDS tries to sell this garbage is by quoting Greek idolators concerning their relationship to gold, silver and stone idols. IOW, the LDS gets their doctrine straight from pagan idolators and they wish to attribute this to the Creator of the Universe. Utter blasphemy.

Its just demonic. I wish they would go back to the days not all that long ago when they distanced themselves from the name "Christian".

105 posted on 08/20/2010 7:51:01 PM PDT by The Theophilus
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