[ansel12]

It's no surprise to most that the biggest trouble with Christianity is the Christians. I had a pastor actually tell me that once, in private of course.

When are humans not the problem? That Pastor needed a little counseling.

[fish hawk]

He said it in a joking manner. He was a true Conservative thinking pastor and a brilliant Bible teacher. He died at a young age from a heart attack while out snorkeling in the ocean here on Maui. He was also the Chaplain of Maui Memorial Hospital and tow old folks homes and the Prison. In his younger days, after WW2 he was a Nazi hunter. Spoke perfect German and had the Aryan look which helped him nail a few of them who were in hiding. A true Hero in my books and was honored to serve with him in the Chaplaincy here on Maui.