[armydoc]

Who has the authority and who proves that he is a heretic? That is the question. We have no authority.

Apparently you DO have the authority! You, throughout this thread, have boldly brought forth an interpretation of EENS which is in conflict with current Church teaching and is in conflict with the interpretation of the vast majority of Catholics who frequent this forum. With that authority, you should not have any problem labeling a teaching as heretical, without regard to the source. OK, it may not be your place to formally declare someone a heretic, but you can call a teaching heretical, can't you?

"For those who are not formally and visibly members of the Church, salvation in Christ is accessible"

Is this statement heretical?

[verdugo]

armydoc wrote: I completely agree that the historical teachings of the Catholic Church held the interpretation of EENS that you hold.

Armydoc wrote: You, throughout this thread, have boldly brought forth an interpretation of EENS which is in conflict with current Church teaching and is in conflict with the interpretation of the vast majority of Catholics who frequent this forum.

It sure looks like you are in conflict with yourself. Who is the real you? You either agree with me or you don't. You can't have it both ways.

[verdugo]

re: "For those who are not formally and visibly members of the Church, salvation in Christ is accessible" Is this statement heretical?

It is not necessarily heretical, for salvation is accessible to EVERY LIVING person no matter what religion. Accessible means available. If that said instead as below, then it would be heretical:

"Those who are not formally and visibly members of the Church, can be saved if they die in their religion."

Heresy is a serious accusation, one just does not throw it out there from one ambiguous statement, like a kneejerk reaction. Are you a sedevacantes?