[metmom]

Well the poor do need to be helped... and for anyone to use that as an excuse to vote for a democrat is just mind-boggling. I hope you realize those people are idiots, religious affiliation not-withstanding.

And yet that was their rationale. I think that the reason that we're in the government mess we're in today in regards to social programs, is in large part due to the church's (and not just Catholics, but ALL Christian denominations) abdication of their obligation to help the poor. You're absolutely right. Voting the responsibility off to the government is NOT fulfilling that command of Christ's

Now I'd like to think that all Catholics, or even all practicing Catholics at least in the United States are fully aware of what the Church teaches about abortion...

You know, that's what the rest of us couldn't understand about why those Catholics voted Dem. Their response was *Yeah, but....*

Come to think of it, I STILL haven't figured out how Catholics continue to do it.

The reason that I see the Catholic vote as the tipping point in the elections, is that not every denomination which is labeled Protestant, really believes the Bible. Many of them have abandoned the truth of it and deny the virgin birth, the atonement, the incarnation, etc. It doesn't surprise me any that they vote liberal.

What does continue to confound me is the Catholics who vote like that in spite of the church's position on the issue.

[Lorica]

The only 2008 evangelical voting percentage I’ve seen has been for white evangelicals. I’ve not seen the percentage for black evangelicals, but it’s well known the black vote went overwhelmingly for Obama. It would be very interesting to see the percentages combined.