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To: metmom; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; annalex; Campion; don-o; Mrs. Don-o; OpusatFR; ..
Cause I know what raw meat looks like and it ain’t white and round and flat.

I'm sure you do, but we aren't discussing raw meat, we are discussing the Body of Christ. Read Luke 24:13-32 sometime.

942 posted on 07/20/2010 10:39:32 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I swear, I think some have ADHD. There is a complete inability to focus on one topic at a time.


945 posted on 07/20/2010 10:43:19 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: wagglebee; metmom

Luke 24:13-32

[13] And behold, two of them went, the same day, to a town which was sixty furlongs from Jerusalem, named Emmaus. [14] And they talked together of all these things which had happened. [15] And it came to pass, that while they talked and reasoned with themselves, Jesus himself also drawing near, went with them.

[16] But their eyes were held, that they should not know him. [17] And he said to them: What are these discourses that you hold one with another as you walk, and are sad? [18] And the one of them, whose name was Cleophas, answering, said to him: Art thou only a stranger to Jerusalem, and hast not known the things that have been done there in these days? [19] To whom he said: What things? And they said: Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, who was a prophet, mighty in work and word before God and all the people; [20] And how our chief priests and princes delivered him to be condemned to death, and crucified him.

[21] But we hoped, that it was he that should have redeemed Israel: and now besides all this, today is the third day since these things were done. [22] Yea and certain women also of our company affrighted us, who before it was light, were at the sepulchre, [23] And not finding his body, came, saying, that they had also seen a vision of angels, who say that he is alive. [24] And some of our people went to the sepulchre, and found it so as the women had said, but him they found not. [25] Then he said to them: O foolish, and slow of heart to believe in all things which the prophets have spoken.

[26] Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and so to enter into his glory? [27] And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded to them in all the scriptures, the things that were concerning him. [28] And they drew nigh to the town, whither they were going: and he made as though he would go farther. [29] But they constrained him; saying: Stay with us, because it is towards evening, and the day is now far spent. And he went in with them. [30] And it came to pass, whilst he was at table with them, he took bread, and blessed, and brake, and gave to them.

[31] And their eyes were opened, and they knew him: and he vanished out of their sight. [32] And they said one to the other: Was not our heart burning within us, whilst he spoke in this way, and opened to us the scriptures?


950 posted on 07/20/2010 10:47:36 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

Placemarker....

Gotta run. Later.


952 posted on 07/20/2010 10:51:22 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Cause I know what raw meat looks like and it ain’t white and round and flat.

Is there a difference that you acknowledge between what a thing is and what it looks like?

A human being, for example, can look like a very small one-celled animal, or like Harrison Ford, or even like Helen Thomas. (I know that's hard to believe. Work with me here.)

I think Helen Thomas is sufficient to show that what a thing IS is different from what it looks like.

I guess I'm going through this because it is simply astonishing to me that somebody could criticize Transubstantiation by saying that the host does not "look like" raw meat.

It is sown a physical body. It is raised a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual body. Thus it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being;" the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
So when we are talking about the body and blood of Christ, we are not talking about "raw meat."

An hour in the Summa would spare us these ridiculous counter arguments which argue against what we do not teach.

976 posted on 07/20/2010 11:37:09 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
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To: wagglebee
I'm sure you do, but we aren't discussing raw meat, we are discussing the Body of Christ. Read Luke 24:13-32 sometime.

If the Eucharist is supposed to turn into the actual body and blood of Christ, literally, then why doesn't it look like it?

1,066 posted on 07/20/2010 3:24:15 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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