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To: metmom; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; annalex; Campion; don-o; Mrs. Don-o; OpusatFR; ..
There are plenty of religions in this world that have been around longer than the Catholic church. Age means nothing.

We are talking about UNDISPUTED writings of Apostolic Church Fathers and yes age has plenty to do with it when we are talking about those who were actually taught by the Apostles. You have YET to answer my question about whether or not the group you belong to has denounced certain beliefs or if it just goes along with whatever.

Tell me, what is their opinion of those who deny the Divinity of Christ or the Trinity?

What is this group you belong to? For all I know you are a Mormon, Jehovah's Witness or Seventh Day Adventist, you've said plenty about what you don't believe but very little about what you DO believe.

905 posted on 07/20/2010 9:57:20 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
We are talking about UNDISPUTED writings of Apostolic Church Fathers

Which undisputed fathers are you talking about???

907 posted on 07/20/2010 9:59:19 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: wagglebee; All

I’ve heard of it, but that’s all.

From Wikipedia
Seventh-day Adventist Church

“The Seventh-day Adventist Church (commonly abbreviated SDA, officially abbreviated Adventist) is a Christian denomination which is distinguished by its observance of Saturday, the original seventh day of the Judeo-Christian week, as the Sabbath, and by its emphasis on the imminent second coming of Jesus Christ. It is the twelfth-largest religious body in the world. The denomination grew out of the Millerite movement in the United States during the middle part of the 19th century and was formally established in 1863. Among its founders was Ellen G. White, whose extensive writings are still held in high regard by the church today.
Much of the theology of the Seventh-day Adventist Church corresponds to Protestant Christian teachings such as the Trinity and the infallibility of Scripture. Distinctive teachings include the unconscious state of the dead and the doctrine of an investigative judgment. The church is also known for its emphasis on diet and health, its holistic understanding of the person, its promotion of religious liberty, and its conservative principles and lifestyle.[citation needed]
The world church is governed by a General Conference, with smaller regions administered by divisions, union conferences and local conferences. It currently has a worldwide membership of over 16 million people, has a missionary presence in over 200 countries and territories and is ethnically and culturally diverse. The church operates numerous schools, hospitals and publishing houses worldwide, as well as a prominent humanitarian aid organization known as the Adventist Development and Relief Agency (ADRA).

History of the Seventh-day Adventist Church
The Seventh-day Adventist Church is the largest of several “Adventist” groups which arose from the Millerite movement of the 1840s in upstate New York, a phase of the Second Great Awakening. Miller predicted on the basis of Daniel 8:14-16 and the “day-year principle” that Jesus Christ would return to Earth on October 22, 1844. When this did not happen, most of his followers disbanded and returned to their original churches.
Some Millerites came to believe that Miller’s calculations were correct, but that his interpretation of Daniel 8:14 was flawed as he assumed it was the ‘earth that was to be cleansed’ or Christ would come to cleanse the world. These “Adventists” arrived at the conviction that Daniel 8:14 foretold Christ’s entrance into the “Most Holy Place” of the heavenly sanctuary rather than his second coming. Over the next decade this understanding developed into the doctrine of the investigative judgment: an eschatological process commencing in 1844 in which Christians will be judged to verify their eligibility for salvation and God’s justice will be confirmed before the universe. The Adventists continued to believe that Christ’s second coming would be imminent, although they refrained from setting further dates for the event.”


914 posted on 07/20/2010 10:08:18 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

They’re not undisputed.

Maybe by the Catholic church they’re undisputed, but others don’t agree.

If someone denies the divinity of Christ, they aren’t believing in the Jesus presented in Scripture, the one who died for them. Not any old person called Jesus is capable of saving.

I’ve never been able to figure out whether belief in the HS is essential for salvation. Since it’s Jesus who died and saves, and that’s the critical part, I’ve never given it much thought. I’ve met only one person in my life who doesn’t believe that the HS is part of the Trinity.


939 posted on 07/20/2010 10:36:12 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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