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To: the_conscience; Dr. Eckleburg

Ok, good to know.

In your view, Mary the Blessed Mother of Our Lord was totally depraved.

To paraphrase Dr. E: “Do they even read what they say about her?”


6,845 posted on 08/04/2010 11:32:31 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
If one were entereted, they could find out what a term refers to and avoid pondering what it seems like prior to criticizing.
6,848 posted on 08/04/2010 11:35:13 PM PDT by the_conscience (We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
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To: D-fendr; the_conscience
Mary was a fallen sinner like the rest of us, saved by God's grace alone.

The garish attributes heaped on a simple Jewish girl by the RCC are profoundly disturbing. If RCs didn't call themselves "Christian," no one would care. But it does not aid the Gospel to have the world believe what Rome preaches about Mary is in any way the Christian perspective.

It is not.

From the RCC catechism at Vatican.va...

411 - The Christian tradition sees in this passage an announcement of the "New Adam" who, because he "became obedient unto death, even death on a cross", makes amends superabundantly for the disobedience, of Adam.305 Furthermore many Fathers and Doctors of the Church have seen the woman announced in the Protoevangelium as Mary, the mother of Christ, the "new Eve". Mary benefited first of all and uniquely from Christ's victory over sin: she was preserved from all stain of original sin and by a special grace of God committed no sin of any kind during her whole earthly life.306

No, Mary is not the "new Eve," or God would have told us that fact in Scripture.

Likewise, God did not exempt Mary from Original Sin. To believe any creature is sinless is heresy and a blasphemy against the only sinless man, Jesus Christ.

Repent.

6,850 posted on 08/04/2010 11:43:49 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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