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To: Mad Dawg; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

The Vatican has had a long time to ponder the issues that Proddys raise about

“MOTHER OF GOD.”

At this point, there can be no doubt that the Vatican is hanging onto it for it’s own reasons.

We could go down the list of those plausible reasons.

I’m not eager to today as it’s just not attractive to me to bother. But it’s doable.

Certainly UTMOST CLARITY AND UTMOST BIBLICAL ACCURACY

is not in the top 10 most plausible reasons . . . or even the top 100 . . .

As Alamo-Girl wisely puts . . . requires footnotes . . . yet the Vatican refuses to provide footnotes.

Another indication that the Vatican is quite willful about using

MOTHER OF GOD

for at best, questionable reasons.

Socio-linguistics would say quite firmly that

MOTHER OF GOD

is grossly misleading to the majority of the earth’s population.

The Vatican cannot be ignorant of that.

The Vatican deliberately prefers to mangle that sociolinguistic reality for the majority of the world’s population

FOR A REASON.

BEHAVIOR DOES NOT OCCUR WITHOUT A REASON.

I say the reason is lacking in integrity, lacking in truth, manipulative, ghastly, . . . and worse.


6,497 posted on 08/04/2010 11:12:51 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix
Because some academic somewhere does something called socio-linguistics, I am to believe that there is evil nastiness behind Chalcedon and Ephesus and am to change a prayer that Catholics have been saying since before the Reformation? -- Ain't gonna happen.

I am listening to Rush read some lefty pundit predicting that conservatives will play on racial fears in the coming election. That photos of Maxine and Charlie will be used not because the Congress thinks they may be crooks and that may be important but because we want to incite racial prejudice and fear.

I hope the Republicans and others do not quit publicizing the suspect character of DimocRAT alleged ethics. I am confident that I will laugh at any suggestion that I or anyone censor the language of Ephesus and Chalcedon because Protestants get upset by it.

As to our refusal to provide footnotes, please remember what you yourself said when somebody put up a very clear statement from Crazy Louie (de Montfort) firmly clarifying the primacy of God and the subordination of Mary as creature. If I recall correctly you immediately impugned his motive.

So, since our footnotes are scoffed at, why go to the trouble? If somebody comes to us without already deciding that all the good we do or say is only to deceive, okay. We won't stop trying to do good or trying to speak the Truth, but we're not going to bend over backwards to win the approval of those dedicated to enmity with us.

Defending against the spurious charges about false motives, trying to help our opponents aim their attacks at what we actually DO teach rather than at the phantoms conjured up by their leaders, these are not the whole of our lives and efforts (though they ARE a big part of MY apostolate.) We will do what we do, and will listen to good arguments, and deal with nonsense the best we can.

6,515 posted on 08/04/2010 11:34:58 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee. here)
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