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To: caww
I’m not catholic... and no I do not believe Mary “gave her consent”...rather she yielded her will to Gods. She said...”Be it unto me as YOU will”...that is not consent..of yes or no..

Oh, my question wasn't directed at you. I included you as a matter of courtesy (protocol).
5,923 posted on 08/03/2010 6:58:14 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: caww
no I do not believe Mary “gave her consent”...rather she yielded her will to Gods. She said...”Be it unto me as YOU will”...that is not consent..of yes or no..

That's what we mean by consent.

It often comes down to a disagreement about the nature of the will's relationship to the good -- to God. Augustine says of God that He is the one whom to serve is to be free ("Whose service is perfect freedom" - in the old Episcopalian wording.)

I think Calvin gets this, but I think the notion of freedom of will has decayed since his day.

5,938 posted on 08/03/2010 7:57:01 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee. here)
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