[caww]

I agree that what one claims they are does not make it so...however her claims to both are not unusual among catholics...and she does indeed claim these, with agreement from others throughout the Christian community...not just catholics but throughout Christendom.

My point is just because a catholic faithfully attends Mass and various rituals, loyal to the church etc. does not mean they live as a Christian or knows the Lord.They do believe in abortion and homosexual marriages etc.

IMO.... A poster recently wrote of ...”knowing them by their fruits”...so in her case and those like her, she produces bad fruit regardless of the “picture” she attempts to paint. And certainly a contradiction, but they do both just the same.

[D-fendr]

just because a catholic faithfully attends Mass and various rituals, loyal to the church etc. does not mean they live as a Christian or knows the Lord.

just because a non-catholic faithfully attends church and various rituals, loyal to the church etc. does not mean they live as a Christian or knows the Lord.

[Mad Dawg]

My point is just because a catholic faithfully attends Mass and various rituals, loyal to the church etc. does not mean they live as a Christian or knows the Lord.They do believe in abortion and homosexual marriages etc.

If she believes that abortion is licit she is not "loyal to the church," even if she thinks she is.

But you are right that there are many Catholics In Name Only. The hospital has many sick people in it. A very devout lady admitted the other day she had no idea who the "judges" were that I was referring to! The only good news to salvage from the exchange is that she is reading the OT and trying to get it.

So, late in life she's beginning to get the idea that she ought to know her Bible a little better. That's good.