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To: wagglebee

If sin against the Holy Spirit cannot be forgiven either now on earth or in the after life, then it can’t be forgiven.

All Jesus is saying is that sin against Him is forgivable, although He doesn’t say where, but sin against the Holy Spirit can’t be forgiven ever. He’s not saying that other sin will or will not be forgiven in the afterlife.

Hebrews 9:27-28 Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

And as for our works being tried by fire to see their quality, that isn’t saying that we are purified from our sins by suffering. Jesus died so that we don’t have to suffer and pay for our sins, which we’re incapable of paying for ourselves anyway.

If we were capable of paying for them by our own suffering, Christ died for nothing.


5,625 posted on 08/02/2010 11:51:48 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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If sin against the Holy Spirit cannot be forgiven either now on earth or in the after life, then it can’t be forgiven.

All Jesus is saying is that sin against Him is forgivable, although He doesn’t say where, but sin against the Holy Spirit can’t be forgiven ever. He’s not saying that other sin will or will not be forgiven in the afterlife.

That is YOUR INTERPRETATION of Scripture.

Why would our Lord reference "a world to come" where forgiveness is granted if none exists?

Hebrews 9:27-28 Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

Nothing in this verse negates Purgatory.

And as for our works being tried by fire to see their quality, that isn’t saying that we are purified from our sins by suffering. Jesus died so that we don’t have to suffer and pay for our sins, which we’re incapable of paying for ourselves anyway.

So, according to YOUR INTERPRETATION of Scripture, Jesus Christ lied when He said, "thou shalt not go out from thence till thou repay the last farthing," AND Saint Paul lied when he wrote, "but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire"?

If we were capable of paying for them by our own suffering, Christ died for nothing.

Again, that is YOUR INTERPRETATION of Scripture.

5,635 posted on 08/02/2010 12:08:20 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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