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To: presently no screen name; Jvette
REDEMPTION came by the Cross, and it was won for every person who would ever be created. SALVATION is what happens to each individual soul. All human beings were redeemed by the Sacrifice, once for all, that Jesus made at Calvary, but not everyone is necessarily saved. There has to be some cooperation with those graces, and I think you would agree with that. I'm sure you would not disagree with me if I said that some people could knowingly reject the Lord and thus be condemned. I'm assuming you would agree that those people could not be saved. That's common ground that Catholics and Protestants share.

He did not die again and rise again for Mary. He died once, and He rose once, then ascended into heaven where He prepares a place for those who will be counted among the saved. Some of those He redeemed on the Cross have, and will, reject Him and not be saved.

Mary was redeemed along with everyone else by Jesus’ Sacrifice. But she was redeemed in anticipation of His merits on the Cross. She was also sanctified beforehand, at the moment of her conception. The Incarnate Son of God's sacrificial death has eternal value and scope, as God is eternal and freely operates outside the constraints of time and space. It is no difficulty for God to apply the infinite merits of the Redemption to her soul beforehand. No problem at all.

5,448 posted on 08/01/2010 10:26:16 PM PDT by Deo volente (Nothing in Scripture precludes Mary's assumption into heaven.)
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To: Deo volente
But she was redeemed in anticipation of His merits on the Cross. She was also sanctified beforehand, at the moment of her conception. The Incarnate Son of God's sacrificial death has eternal value and scope, as God is eternal and freely operates outside the constraints of time and space. It is no difficulty for God to apply the infinite merits of the Redemption to her soul beforehand. No problem at all.

It's not difficult for God to do anything - but HE NEVER GOES AGAINST HIS WORD. Something that you seem to have a problem with - with your extra man made doctrine beliefs. One foot in the Word and another foot in man man doctrine leaves one off balanced when it comes to Truth.
5,458 posted on 08/01/2010 10:34:48 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Deo volente
she was redeemed in anticipation of His merits on the Cross. She was also sanctified beforehand, at the moment of her conception.

How? I read nothing which attest to Mary being saved at conception, or her being sanctified beforehand. The announcement was all about Christ and His birth...She said...'Behold the handmaiden of the Lord, be it unto me as you will"...Her willingness to have what was spoken to be so. But nothing of her being saved.??????

5,489 posted on 08/02/2010 12:57:01 AM PDT by caww
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To: Deo volente; presently no screen name
But she was redeemed in anticipation of His merits on the Cross. She was also sanctified beforehand, at the moment of her conception.

And just where in the Bible is that found?

5,537 posted on 08/02/2010 8:59:51 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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