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To: small voice in the wilderness; Jvette
With supporting Scripture that is NOT explicit, but IMPLICIT.

And the problem with that is....what?

You've merely restated the Catholic position that doctrines of the faith can be found at least implicitly in Scripture. You've already learned that throughout this thread, which is growing to ridiculous lengths, IMO. But let's get back to the issue.

The Assumption of Mary is not explicitly defined in the Bible. So what! Everyone here agrees on that point.
4,651 posted on 07/31/2010 5:08:07 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Deo volente
No, doctrines of your faith can found when you read into Scripture what you want, and make it say something is does not say. Not by a long shot.

Like THIS for an example. Jesus was born of a virgin. Named Mary.

And by that, you deduce she was immaculately conceived herself,never sinned, and is sitting on the right hand of Christ, dispensing grace.

4,657 posted on 07/31/2010 5:19:33 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Deo volente
The Assumption of Mary is not explicitly defined in the Bible. So what! Everyone here agrees on that point.

The Assumption is based on a condemned GNOSTIC writing called De Transitu Virginis Mariae Liber.

Pope Gelasius explicitly condemns the authors as well as their writings and the teachings which they promote and all who follow them. And significantly, this entire decree and its condemnation was reaffirmed by Pope Hormisdas in the sixth century around A.D. 520.

In the 3rd of 4th century there was composed a book, embodying the Gnostic and Collyridian traditions as to the death of Mary, called De Transitu Virginis Mariae Liber. This book exists still and may be found in the Bibliotheca Patrum Maxima (tom. ii. pt. ii. p. 212)....The Liber Transitu Mariae contains already the whole of the story of the Assumption. But down to the end of the 5th century this story was regarded by the Church as a Gnostic or Collyridian fable, and the Liber de Transitu was condemned as heretical by the Decretum de Libris Canonicis Ecclesiasticus et Apocryphis, attributed to pope Gelasius, A.D. 494.

How then did it pass across the borders and establish itself within the church, so as to have a festival appointed to commemorate it? In the following manner: In the sixth century a great change passed over the sentiments and the theology of the church in reference to the Theotokos—an unintended but very noticeable result of the Nestorian controversies, which in maintaining the true doctrine of the Incarnation incidentally gave strong impulse to what became the worship of Mary.

http://www.christiantruth.com/articles/assumption.html

4,701 posted on 07/31/2010 6:36:11 PM PDT by bkaycee
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