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To: boatbums; Alamo-Girl; marron; Quix; YHAOS; KC Burke; stfassisi
You are parsing words too much. Or so it seems to me.

I don't see any obvious reason, from my perspective, for the designation of Mary either as "Mother of God" or "Mary as Mother of the Incarnate Word" as constituting any kind of logical or epistemological difference in terms. Jesus Christ is God, manifesting at once as Son of God the Father, and Logos of the Godhead. His Father was our Father — God Himself — Whom the Son was, and was with, in the Beginning. Whether "Mother of God" or "Mother of the Incarnate Word," both linguistic formulations appear to refer to the same thing: Christ with us, from His Father.

Well, that's the best explanation I can come up with. Whatever its defects, it is from my heart.

4,424 posted on 07/30/2010 11:03:33 PM PDT by betty boop (Those who do not punish bad men are really wishing that good men be injured. — Pythagoras)
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To: betty boop

I have no doubt it’s from your heart, Dear Sister.

I’m grieved that I wasn’t a better communicator with you about the issues. I gave it my best shot.

Thanks for reading.


4,429 posted on 07/30/2010 11:10:05 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: betty boop
Thank you for sharing your testimony, dearest sister in Christ!

I prefer clarity.

The title "Mother of the Incarnate Word" requires no footnotes.

4,432 posted on 07/30/2010 11:14:18 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop

There are no “defects”-— and that what you write is “from your heart” is what Christ sees.

Can we ever understand how much He loved his mother?

You are my dear sister in Christ


4,435 posted on 07/30/2010 11:23:58 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: betty boop
Thank you for your heart efforts very much. What I see - and I in no way intend to denigrate Mary - is that she as a normal human young woman who was brought up well with a knowledge, respect and love for God and who was part of the blessed kingly bloodline of David. I am sure she was a great child growing up, helpful, obedient, respectful. No information came out from her family pertaining to her sinless nature. I wonder about why since this would be quite extrordinary, wouldn't you think? A toddler that didn't scream and shreik NO at the top of her lungs?

Growing up she never lied, always cleaned her room without being asked, never was hurtful to siblings, always shared her toys, obeyed Mom and Dad about averything? This admittedly unusually well behaved girl must have had some talk about her going on. But there's nada. Someone like this would have been unusual for that time yet no manuscripts or letters anywhere mention this phenomenon. Her family never told anybody about her? It just makes me wonder about the Sinlessness of Mary angle, and why it was so important.

It was obviously very important that she be a virgin and God chose her to be the mother of the Christ. She assented to the angel's pronouncement as scared as she must have been, yet her faith in God was greater than her fear. The tiny little embryo was formed from her ova through the miracle of the incarnation. Within her body that baby developed for nine months and God made sure she was norished and protected. Jesus was born from her body and she was the first to hold him in her arms, kiss him, carress his head and nurse his hungry tummy. She did all the things a loving and caring mother would do and she and Joseph made sure Jesus was well educated and raise in the nurture of the Lord.

She stayed with him until he died and even went to the tomb after he was buried. She remained as one of the disciples waiting for him in the upper room at Pentecost. She truly was a remarkable and faithful woman. One we should all look to as an example of faithfulness.

That Jesus was both divine and human in the same person proved he was Almighty God incarnate - in the flesh. That she was/is the mother of the Son of God, of Jesus Christ, of the incarnate Word who is Jesus Christ is undeniable. She is a human mother of a God-Man. The human part, the flesh and blood part that God chose to indwell was living inside Mary and gave forth from her body. I believe that at no time was the divine nature seperate from the human nature even as that developing embryo/fetus. It was still Him.

But because the Son, Jesus, existed from before all time he never had a beginning. He has always been one with the Father. Mary then as his mother was mother to this incarnate Jesus. Jesus is God and he WAS God before he took upon flesh. A deep subject to contemplate, I agree, but I just don't think the title "Mother of God" suits her. She was the bearer of God in the flesh. Mother of the Incarnate God Jesus Christ.

4,444 posted on 07/30/2010 11:49:18 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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