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To: Deo volente; Jvette
I agree. And Jvette should know this before posting some outlandish claim that is so OBVIOUSLY WRONG.

I won't embarass him/her anymore.

Just a point to be made. KNOW WHAT THOU BELIEVEST, or LEARN BEFORE THOU POSTETH...

4,194 posted on 07/30/2010 4:49:24 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
I agree. And Jvette should know this before posting some outlandish claim that is so OBVIOUSLY WRONG.

I won't embarass him/her anymore.

ROTFLOL, AGAIN and AGAIN at the audacity of arrogance.

Please, I can only take so much

4,210 posted on 07/30/2010 5:13:59 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: small voice in the wilderness; Jvette; wagglebee; Cronos; MarkBsnr; Natural Law
Sorry, but if you're talking about Jvette’s post #4160, she is NOT wrong.

” Everything she (the Church) holds to be true and necessary for the salvation of souls is within Scripture both explicitly and implicitly.”

The key word here is implicitly. There is Scripture that points to the Assumption of Mary. It is not explicitly spelled out, but there is Scripture that
points towards it. As the following (excerpted) says, NOTHING IN SCRIPTURE PRECLUDES THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY.

http://www.scripturecatholic.com/blessed_virgin_mary.html#the_bvm-VI

Mary's Assumption into Heaven

Gen. 5:24, Heb. 11:5 - Enoch was bodily assumed into heaven without dying. Would God do any less for Mary the Ark of the New Covenant?

2 Kings 2:11-12; 1 Mac 2:58 - Elijah was assumed into heaven in fiery chariot. Jesus would not do any less for His Blessed Mother.

Psalm 132:8 - Arise, O Lord, and go to thy resting place, thou and the Ark (Mary) of thy might. Both Jesus and Mary were taken up to their eternal resting place in heaven.

2 Cor. 12:2 - Paul speaks of a man in Christ who was caught up to the third heaven. Mary was also brought up into heaven by God.

Matt. 27:52-53 - when Jesus died and rose, the bodies of the saints were raised. Nothing in Scripture precludes Mary's assumption into heaven.

1 Thess. 4:17 - we shall be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so we shall always be with the Lord.

Rev. 12:1 - we see Mary, the “woman,” clothed with the sun. While in Rev. 6:9 we only see the souls of the martyrs in heaven, in Rev. 12:1 we see Mary, both body and soul.

2 Thess. 2:15 - Paul instructs us to hold fast to oral (not just written) tradition. Apostolic tradition says Mary was assumed into heaven. While claiming the bones of the saints was a common practice during these times (and would have been especially important to obtain Mary's bones as she was the Mother of God), Mary's bones were never claimed. This is because they were not available. Mary was taken up body and soul into heaven.

4,334 posted on 07/30/2010 7:56:57 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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