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To: Dutchboy88
Ah, yes. The famed quasi-Montanist argument that if only we had the wisdom given to those who mock and abuse us, we would thank them for their gratuitous cruelty. It is only the blindness of our sinfulness that prevents us from seeing that repeated lies and gross slanders are actually truth and love!

In the wisdom of our assailants, the way to make us trust them is to speak falsehood and claim it to be truth, to be needlessly abrasive and claim it to be needful suavity.

They seek to draw us into their kingdom of unreason and sado-masochistic evangelism by driving us away. They try to attract us by being repellent, to strengthen us by constant attack, to delight us by smashing things of beauty, to bless us with curses.

Then they congratulate themselves on their piety.

3,862 posted on 07/30/2010 9:04:13 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Priceless. Thanks


3,865 posted on 07/30/2010 9:11:36 AM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Mad Dawg

A brilliant post. Perfectly stated!


3,869 posted on 07/30/2010 9:27:23 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Outstanding post!


3,871 posted on 07/30/2010 9:31:37 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Mad Dawg; Alamo-Girl

I’ve been

slapped hard . . . and sometimes in some excruciatingly tender places . . .

by foes and “friends/brothers” alike.

Some meant it for cruelty.

Some meant it for redemptive goals.

I tried . . . and eventually managed—by God’s Grace—in each case . . .

to REALIZE

IT WAS ALL

GOD’S !MERCY!

And not “just” because He works all things to good to those who Love Him,

I think God sometimes uses such things to get at some things in us which—in some respects—for some purposes—can’t get dealt with any other way.


3,882 posted on 07/30/2010 9:48:17 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Mad Dawg; Dutchboy88; RnMomof7; Iscool; fish hawk; Quix; OLD REGGIE; metmom; ...
those who mock and abuse us...their gratuitous cruelty...repeated lies and gross slanders...

Thanks for illustrating who ratchets up the rhetoric around here.

our assailants...speak falsehood...needlessly abrasive

"Assailants?"

The term "drama queens" springs to mind.

their kingdom of unreason and sado-masochistic evangelism...being repellent...constant attack...smashing things of beauty...with curses.

"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16

Then they congratulate themselves on their piety.

Ah, no, that back-slapping belongs to Roman Catholic apologists who think their own good works merit salvation. But Christians know what Paul said about that kind of boasting...

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast." -- Ephesians 2:8-9

Apparently RCs not only love their own good works, they also love their victimhood. Probably something about feeling more pious.

3,883 posted on 07/30/2010 9:58:47 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Mad Dawg; Deo volente; Dr. Eckleburg; fish hawk; RnMomof7
"...big, steaming pile of hate...

"...vile offerings..."

You may want to visit with Deo volente about the mocking and abuse. The good Dr., however, presented only the graphic and errant problem with Rome. She was highlighting the damage done by Rome's abandonment of the clear statements of Scripture, their wrongful usurptation of authority, their shameful replacement of grace with ceremony, tradition and human works. If you cannot see this, then perhaps the scales still exist at your level also.

3,917 posted on 07/30/2010 10:54:20 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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